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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN from Northern Ireland
« on: October 06, 2025, 07:52:38 pm »
Hi Stanfordman,

Sorry, Yes the PCN is in my name and (correct) address.

With regards to Hertz, I would have no problems arguing that I agreed to pay PCN, charges etc that were my fault but that does not mean I will be responsible for charges caused by someone else acting illegally. If they have not reported the cloning then the contract clause is unfair.

I will sleep on it for now and maybe someone will be familiar with the NI protocol and can confirm where the NTO will go.

Thanks for your time.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN from Northern Ireland
« on: October 06, 2025, 07:28:15 pm »
Hi Stamfordman,

OK, they charged 31.25 Euros.

This where it may get a bit tricky. If this was an english car under english law AND if Hertz got the notice, I would be quite happy to argue that Hertz would have to prove that:

a) The photo is of the car that I hired (It isn't !)

b) That I was driving the car at the time of the contravention, (BTW my wife was also an authorised driver).

I am quite happy to make them try to get a CCJ, which I would defend, I have been there before.

It seems the catch 22 in this one is, to appeal you need to report a crime, ie fraud. To report cloned number plates you need to be the owner of the car. Also that is before who do I report it to, my local UK police, NI Police or the Gardai ?

So I suppose the question is will the Notice to Owner go to Hertz ?

Thanks



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN from Northern Ireland
« on: October 06, 2025, 07:04:16 pm »
Hi Stamfordman,

I have just checked my credit card and they have debited my card on 30th Aug. I can easily challenge this with the card issuer. I have no objections to paying for PCN's that were my fault but it is frustrating when I have not done anything.

Yes, but why did the DFI acknowledge 4 transactions which were not relevant but ignored the one transaction which was ? I have a google timeline on my mobile app but cannot screen shot it from my mobile so not sure how I can get this.

From the way the PCN is worded they seem to be claiming that I was the registered owner during the rental period.

Beginning to think I am barking at the moon here and just have to accept that the whole PCN system is not fit for purpose.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN from Northern Ireland
« on: October 06, 2025, 06:29:01 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on October 06, 2025, 06:16:24 pm
Think it just means the OP was in Carlow and couldn't have got there in an hour.

There must be something more fundamental to go on.

Exactly right.

This is a real cross border nightmare  :-X

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN from Northern Ireland
« on: October 06, 2025, 06:27:20 pm »
Hi Stamfordman,

I am based in the UK and the PCN was sent to my correct address.

The vehicle in the picture is the correct make/model/colour. However it does not appear to have the 'Drive on the right / Links Fahren' and 'No Smoking' stickers on the drivers side of the windscreen.

I have put the emails and rejections in order, so hopefully should be fairly easy to follow.

https://ibb.co/zTKMTPkV
https://ibb.co/0Vs7qzpB
https://ibb.co/DDjDfzps
https://ibb.co/hJs8Yqzn
https://ibb.co/5gM0HhhQ

Thanks.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / PCN from Northern Ireland
« on: October 06, 2025, 04:28:43 pm »
Hi Guys,

I am looking for any advice regarding a PCN.

Images of PCN:

https://ibb.co/JWyX4M7w
https://ibb.co/vCjxwYd8
https://ibb.co/qL5kXRkp
https://ibb.co/hJvhhdv4

The complication with this is:

1) I hired a car through Hertz (with the you are responsible for PCN's etc) at Dublin airport on 31/07/25 and returned it 02/08/25.
2) I received the above PCN on 23/08/25 from the NI Department For Infrastructure. I have never been to NI.
3) I tried to appeal the PCN and sent a copy of my bank statement which showed I was in the ROI one hour after this traffic offence (travel time Belfast to Carlow, ROI 2.5 - 3 hours), but no surprise this was refused.

What I am looking for help/advice on is, would anyone know if it is even worth appealing this. IE can I expect a genuinely neutral adjudicator ?

Thanks for any help you can give


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