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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 03, 2025, 10:44:20 am »
Haven't thought of it that way. I will ask my partner, as she know a cashier that was recently hired. Maybe she will be able to help.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 02, 2025, 07:36:50 pm »
That make sense thanks. I couldn't help myself to visit the "crime scene" and read all the signs. I have found that the 2 white bays also have a private land sign and it states that the parking is for seoul plaza customers which I was. Unfortunately it states clearly that you have to park in the two marked areas. From far It looks like all the other signs that were there. There is another sign below it, which states "Only 2 parking spaced available: Seoul plaza customers only" However it is hang quite low, which was then obstructed by another car at the time of my visit. I am unsure whether this "evidence" will help me or work in their favour. What do you guys think? Is this helpful at all?

The one I park next to:
https://ibb.co/QGfp2jy

In between two legit parking spaces:
https://ibb.co/39BwXw6n

The one obstructed during my visit by a higher car:
https://ibb.co/d43qrTFk

Car picture:
https://ibb.co/TNtMdYw

the one hanged opposite parking spaces on the shop wall:
https://ibb.co/JWZh45XK




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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 02, 2025, 04:52:03 pm »
That's assuring.

 Sorry to ask so many questions, but once IAS rule in favour of them I guess I will have 28 days to pay. Then I should not pay them anything, and after that period do they always pass onto the debt collectors? If so, I know you said to ignore the letters, but what in case they appear at my door step? I found that these answers , are they any good?:

1. “This matter is in dispute. You have no authority here. Please leave immediately.”
2. “I will only deal with this in writing. I do not give you permission to be on my property. Please leave.”

Also is there a chance they just ignore it and don't pass it onto debt collectors or is it very common tactic?
Is there certain period of time for debt collector to try to get the money of me before they issue LoC?
How often these people take others to court from your experience? I heard they tend to give up on the people that fight their case and willing to go to court, if the intimidation does not work.

That’s reassuring.

Sorry for all the questions, but once the IAS rules in their favour, I guess I will be issued with 28 days to pay.  I know you said to not pay anything so I will take that advice — Do they then always pass the case on to debt collectors?

You mentioned ignoring debt collector letters, but what if someone actually turned up at my doorstep? I came across a couple of suggested responses — do these sound right?

“This matter is in dispute. You have no authority here. Please leave immediately.”

“I will only deal with this in writing. I do not give you permission to be on my property. Please leave.”

Also, is there a chance they simply drop it without sending it to debt collectors, or is passing it on their usual procedure?

Is there a set time limit for debt collectors to chase me before a Letter of Claim would be issued? And in your experience, how often do these companies actually take people to court? I’ve heard they often back off when someone shows they’re willing to fight rather than give in to intimidation.

Even if I was in the wrong in the legal point of view, do you believe I should be fighting this case?


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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 02, 2025, 03:53:35 pm »
Thank you, I am a bit hot headed and should have refer to here before making any appeals. I assume when debt get passed onto debt collectors the total amount will increase. Is this amount going to be a new total of what they would be potentially asking for to settle, or once I receive the LoC the original charge amount applies? I am just wondering as since the appeal my amount increased by £40 instantly, hence I don't want to end up having £100 + fees of leeching debt collector.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 02, 2025, 03:31:26 pm »
As I dig dipper I assume this is somewhat valid charge as much as I hate to admit. It seems like the grace period does not apply to the private land where permit is needed. In your perspective, is there any chance I could fight this location was somewhat misleading etc, or should I just accept the lose, regardless of how sneaky and cheeky the guy in a van was.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 02, 2025, 02:04:14 pm »
I have stated I am a driver unfortunately. My close friend is a keeper, therefore I wanted to take the liability of her.

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Private parking tickets / PCN - Private Land No Permit
« on: October 02, 2025, 01:07:02 pm »
Hey all,

I’d like some objective opinions on a private parking ticket I’ve been given.
The layout:
I regularly shop at Seoul Plaza on a busy street. There are two vertical parking bays right outside, clearly marked with white lines. Just above those two bays, there’s space where a third car could fit, but this space isn’t marked with white lines. I parked in that spot.
There’s a sign on a pole next to it saying “Private Land – Parking Charge £100.” However, the same style of signs are also drilled into the wall of the shop itself (which is part of a larger building). Because of that, and the fact the two marked bays are obviously for customer use, I genuinely believed the unmarked space was also part of the shop’s customer parking. To make matters more confusing, I’d previously asked cashiers in the shop where to park and was told to park opposite the shop — which is exactly where these bays are.
The enforcement:
As soon as I pulled in, a guy in a van immediately started taking photos — one of my car, one of me exiting the vehicle, and even photos of me and my partner walking away towards the shop (back view, not face). He was taking pictures for total of 5 minutes (I left shop after 7 mins according to my bank payment and the start of his picture taking). If it had been in good faith, he could have just asked me to move, which I would have happily done.
The visit:
I was parked there for roughly 7 minutes while shopping at Seoul Plaza. I acted in good faith as a customer of the shop, using what I genuinely thought was customer parking.
The appeal so far:
I appealed to the parking company on the basis that:
* The layout is misleading (the unmarked space looks like part of the same bays).
* I was a genuine customer, shopping in good faith.
* Their operative acted predatory, taking photos instantly.
* Photographing me personally was unnecessary and intrusive.
They rejected it, stating “NO PERMIT, this space is not part of shop car park.” I’ve now escalated to the IAS, but as much as I keep reading about it, I realise tie IAS is useless and will side with the prive land owner.



Because I have appealed I have now lost the discount period.

Company issueing PCN: Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd.

I parked between the white line and pole:

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4458258,-1.9320858,3a,75y,46.87h,56.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWECOZw1OP8HGkEJQvDtHtg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D33.34366392720621%26panoid%3DWECOZw1OP8HGkEJQvDtHtg%26yaw%3D46.866971643756756!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

I would appreciate your advise.

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