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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: [Haringey] Barratt Avenue N22 (junction Park Avenue) (SS16) school street
« on: February 08, 2026, 12:42:49 pm »
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / [Haringey] Barratt Avenue N22 (junction Park Avenue) (SS16) school street
« on: February 07, 2026, 02:58:06 pm »
Hi Everyone,
We're trying to see if we should play out or not. Here's the PCN:
The driver entered a school street on this occasion while the enforcement time was in place at 9:06 AM.
There's a road side sign on the nearside approximately 30 meters away, however on this occasion a large van/delivery vehicle partially obstructed the sign and the driver failed to see this. Worse, the signage on the entrance from near side is almost impossible to see as they are not angled or anything like that for the approaching vehicles, and the driver missed this too.
Once inside, even if the driver could tell, here would be now way to tell as the street is one way and backing out of the street was not an option either due to traffic on the road.
Finally a video of the contravention.
https://youtu.be/8Dq2AXhTK40
We're trying to see if we should play out or not. Here's the PCN:
The driver entered a school street on this occasion while the enforcement time was in place at 9:06 AM.
There's a road side sign on the nearside approximately 30 meters away, however on this occasion a large van/delivery vehicle partially obstructed the sign and the driver failed to see this. Worse, the signage on the entrance from near side is almost impossible to see as they are not angled or anything like that for the approaching vehicles, and the driver missed this too.
Once inside, even if the driver could tell, here would be now way to tell as the street is one way and backing out of the street was not an option either due to traffic on the road.
Finally a video of the contravention.
https://youtu.be/8Dq2AXhTK40
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 28, 2026, 09:08:44 pm »
This is what I wrote:
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We sold our flat to Islington Council on 13/06/2025 and moved to our current address on that date.
The alleged contravention occurred on 01/07/2025, less than two weeks after our move.
At that time, our vehicle logbook had not yet been updated with our new address.
We had arranged Royal Mail redirection from 07/06/2025. However, without our knowledge or any notification,
Royal Mail cancelled the redirection. We only became aware of this recently, which explains why we did not
receive any correspondence relating to this PCN.
During this period, we did receive other correspondence from Islington Council regarding our former
property, sent to our new address, which led us to believe that addressing was not an issue.
We have never previously failed to respond to or pay a PCN, and a number of PCNs paid or contested by
us are recorded on Islington Council’s PCN portal. Had we received the PCN or Notice to Owner, we would
have paid or made representations in the normal way.
We therefore respectfully request permission to file the statutory declaration out of time.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 28, 2026, 07:35:39 pm »As you don't seem to have updated the logbook you don't have much of a case. You could provide details of dates of mail redirection.
The out of time process is designed to cover those who get PCNs during the window of moving and updating the logbook, among other things such as no-fault address errors, but the law requires speedy logbook updating to where the registered keeper is.
Since the contravention was less than two weeks from our date of move, surely we couldn't be expected to have updated the logbook?
Also, now we are slightly paranoid - what if we accidentally committed more contravention in the meantime and have more tickets in our name coming up? How do we check even?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 28, 2026, 07:28:38 pm »As you don't seem to have updated the logbook you don't have much of a case. You could provide details of dates of mail redirection.
The out of time process is designed to cover those who get PCNs during the window of moving and updating the logbook, among other things such as no-fault address errors, but the law requires speedy logbook updating to where the registered keeper is.
Just to be clear - we're happy to pay the original PCN, but paying the debt company just feels wrong!
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bailiff Notice - Islington - Code 52JM Failing to Comply with a prohibition - Canonbury Place
« on: January 28, 2026, 07:27:08 pm »Thank you very much for replying.
The lack of update to the V5C was pure negligence on my part, no excuses.
The contravention was driving into a low traffic neighbourhood, caught on a CCTV camera.
I will pay the bailiff as you suggest and will follow your very helpful guidance to see if anything can be done afterwards.
Lessons have been learnt on my part.
Hi There,
Did you get any closure on this? We had exactly the same thing in Islington council and found out yesterday.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 28, 2026, 07:13:30 pm »
I assumed in the context of the conversation, that people move, PCN gets sent to old address and next thing you know debt collection agency mail in your letterbox!
Common as in thousands of TEC submissions (Statutory Declarations or Witness Statements), per year.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 28, 2026, 10:17:24 am »
FYI called Islington just now.
They asked us to file a TEC and notify the debt collection agency. Apparently this is a very common thing!
They asked us to file a TEC and notify the debt collection agency. Apparently this is a very common thing!
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 28, 2026, 07:53:11 am »
Yup, it did have correct previous address and names.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 27, 2026, 07:41:29 pm »
Hi There,
The date of move was 13th June. We setup redirection shortly afterwards, but I can’t find details on inbox, must have deleted the email somehow.
You are correct that the logbook weren’t correct as we forgot to update that (only drivers licenses).
Kind regards.
The date of move was 13th June. We setup redirection shortly afterwards, but I can’t find details on inbox, must have deleted the email somehow.
You are correct that the logbook weren’t correct as we forgot to update that (only drivers licenses).
Kind regards.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from CDER group
« on: January 27, 2026, 05:47:30 pm »
Hi There,
Somewhat unusual situation, for us at least.
Earlier today, we received a notice of enforcement from CDER Group who by the looks are a debt collection agency in the tune of £325. £250 fine and £75 fees. Ouch!
This due to a PCN that was issued back in 01/07/2025 on the grounds of code 52, failing to comply with prohibition on certain types of vehicle, e.g. LTN.
After much head scratching, my partner recalled that on that day on their way back from work, due to an accident, the police diverted traffic through Dove Road, an LTN street which must have resulted in the fine.
Now you might be asking, why so late with all this?
That's because we sold our place in Islington (no less to Islington council) and moved away to Barnet. We did setup mail forwarding and updated our drivers licenses etc. but forgot to update the log book. For whatever reason, we were completely unaware of this ticket, the PCN never materialized in post and here we are...
We logged onto Islington council's PNC portal, but can't find any photo or map evidence related to the PCN, but an entry exists.
We called CDER Group, but was met with a hostile and mildly threatening agent (usual tactic I guess) who said that we have to pay up as we didn't update the log book etc. Needless to say, we hung up.
We plan to call the council tomorrow to learn more... but in the meantime mulling on options.
Clearly, if traffic was being diverted by police, Islington council shouldn't have issued a PCN in the first place and there would be records of similar contravention at that time. Really unfortunate for us. But it was and it didn't make it to us eventually and was passed on to a debt collection agency.
Advice/help appreciated. I've attached a copy of the letter received today.
Somewhat unusual situation, for us at least.
Earlier today, we received a notice of enforcement from CDER Group who by the looks are a debt collection agency in the tune of £325. £250 fine and £75 fees. Ouch!
This due to a PCN that was issued back in 01/07/2025 on the grounds of code 52, failing to comply with prohibition on certain types of vehicle, e.g. LTN.
After much head scratching, my partner recalled that on that day on their way back from work, due to an accident, the police diverted traffic through Dove Road, an LTN street which must have resulted in the fine.
Now you might be asking, why so late with all this?
That's because we sold our place in Islington (no less to Islington council) and moved away to Barnet. We did setup mail forwarding and updated our drivers licenses etc. but forgot to update the log book. For whatever reason, we were completely unaware of this ticket, the PCN never materialized in post and here we are...
We logged onto Islington council's PNC portal, but can't find any photo or map evidence related to the PCN, but an entry exists.
We called CDER Group, but was met with a hostile and mildly threatening agent (usual tactic I guess) who said that we have to pay up as we didn't update the log book etc. Needless to say, we hung up.
We plan to call the council tomorrow to learn more... but in the meantime mulling on options.
Clearly, if traffic was being diverted by police, Islington council shouldn't have issued a PCN in the first place and there would be records of similar contravention at that time. Really unfortunate for us. But it was and it didn't make it to us eventually and was passed on to a debt collection agency.
Advice/help appreciated. I've attached a copy of the letter received today.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway) - Redvers Street, Hackney
« on: October 17, 2025, 12:02:17 pm »
UPDATE
I appealed to TfL on the grounds that the car was mostly on private parking bay and had a parking permit for the bay and that their contravention reason, even if legitimate was not for parking on pavement.
The PCN has been cancelled by TfL. Yay!
I appealed to TfL on the grounds that the car was mostly on private parking bay and had a parking permit for the bay and that their contravention reason, even if legitimate was not for parking on pavement.
The PCN has been cancelled by TfL. Yay!
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway) - Redvers Street, Hackney
« on: September 24, 2025, 08:59:22 am »
Hi There,
Yes - its from TFL. And yes there are private parking spots (I posted a Google maps screenshot showing the slots). If parking was indeed illegal there, no one would park there from Hackney college? I'm not sure how my partner was picked up when there were multiple other vehicles parked on the same street.
The private parking notices are present on that side at regular intervals, just that the one closet to my partner's car is not preset (probably fell out by the looks of things).
P.S. Apologies for delayed response, for some reason I didn't receive an email stating there was a forum response (not even in Junk)
Yes - its from TFL. And yes there are private parking spots (I posted a Google maps screenshot showing the slots). If parking was indeed illegal there, no one would park there from Hackney college? I'm not sure how my partner was picked up when there were multiple other vehicles parked on the same street.
The private parking notices are present on that side at regular intervals, just that the one closet to my partner's car is not preset (probably fell out by the looks of things).
P.S. Apologies for delayed response, for some reason I didn't receive an email stating there was a forum response (not even in Junk)
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway) - Redvers Street, Hackney
« on: September 20, 2025, 08:03:19 pm »
Hi There,
Raising this on behalf of my partner.
My partner works in Hackney college and on that day, due to ongoing works in the staff parking area had to park just outside the car park in Redvers Street.
Here's the location and the photos, the first two are street view images showing cars parked in the location and also showing when the street is empty.
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Note that there's dedicated parking space adjacent to the double red lines, which I think are crucial in this case. The parking belonging to Hackney college and my partner had the permit in view. Clearly however as my parner couldn't find enough space, had to go over the curb as seen in the photo, thereby also going outside of the parking area.
I thought I'd ask the forum in case there's a chance this can be appealed.
Thanks!
Raising this on behalf of my partner.
My partner works in Hackney college and on that day, due to ongoing works in the staff parking area had to park just outside the car park in Redvers Street.
Here's the location and the photos, the first two are street view images showing cars parked in the location and also showing when the street is empty.
. . Note that there's dedicated parking space adjacent to the double red lines, which I think are crucial in this case. The parking belonging to Hackney college and my partner had the permit in view. Clearly however as my parner couldn't find enough space, had to go over the curb as seen in the photo, thereby also going outside of the parking area.
I thought I'd ask the forum in case there's a chance this can be appealed.
Thanks!
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