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Private parking tickets / PCN - Manchester Airport drop off - Nov 25
« on: November 14, 2025, 06:05:12 pm »
Hi,

The driver had a surprise when receiving this PCN. It appears as though there is a barrierless chargeable drop-off zone they went through and were unaware.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/s8Krq3ZzF8D92bPq5

They were driving on their way to the airport multi-storey car park and their sat nav took them through this drop-off area. It was night/dark, raining, and they noticed no signs it was chargeable (I've uploaded a screenshot from Google Maps of their route - the yellow highlight area is apparently the APNR bit). Their vehicle DID NOT stop/park (the 1min 20seconds from entry to exit, was the time it took to drive the road distance), and then moment later they entered and used the T2 Multi-Storey West car park

The driver obviously wants to contest this charge as
1. They didnt know they would be charged to drive through
2. At no time did they stop/park the vehicle in this area
3. They were on their way to the multi-storey, which they used moments later (which I assume they have on record as it had cameras)


They've written the below appeal to APCOA with the help of chat GPT - I'd love your feedback on if this is a suitable appeal response or if it can be improved. Thanks!


Subject: Parking Charge Notice [PCN Number] – Formal Appeal

Dear APCOA Parking,

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle referenced in your Parking Charge Notice.

I am appealing this charge on the basis that no parking or stopping occurred, no contract was formed, and inadequate signage failed to alert the driver that they were entering a paid drop-off zone.

1. No stopping, no parking – vehicle was only driving through

Your ANPR images show an entry-to-exit period of only 1 minute 20 seconds.
During this time, the vehicle did not stop, did not drop off passengers, and did not park. It was simply driving through the roadway, attempting to reach the T2 Multi-Storey West car park.

The BPA Code of Practice defines parking/stopping as a deliberate stationary event.
This did not happen.

2. The driver was navigating to the T2 Multi-Storey West car park

The driver was using sat-nav guidance, which directed them through what appeared to be the normal access road to the multi-storey car park. The layout funnels vehicles directly through this area, and in darkness and rain it was not apparent that this was a chargeable zone.

3. Signage was insufficient to form a contract

At the time of travel it was dark and raining, and the signs indicating that the area was a paid drop-off zone were not visible or prominent before entering.

The BPA Code of Practice (Section 19) requires that:

Signs must be clear, prominent and adequately lit

Drivers must have the opportunity to review terms before entering a contract

This was not the case here.

4. Evidence of immediate entry into the official airport car park

Immediately after passing through the drop-off zone, the vehicle entered the T2 Multi-Storey West car park, where it legitimately parked.

ANPR/barrier logs will confirm this.

This clearly shows:

The driver was not intending to use the drop-off zone

The route was taken solely to reach the car park

There was no motive or benefit in avoiding payment

5. Grace periods apply

The BPA Code of Practice requires reasonable observation and grace periods, especially when:

Road layouts are confusing

Drivers are unfamiliar with the airport

Signage is not clearly visible

1 minute 20 seconds is fully consistent with a driver simply navigating through in moving traffic.

Conclusion

Because the driver:

Did not stop or park

Saw no clear signage

Immediately proceeded to the official multi-storey car park

Spent only 1 minute 20 seconds moving through

Could not reasonably have reviewed or accepted any terms

…no parking contract was formed, and the charge must therefore be cancelled.

I request that this PCN be cancelled. If you reject this appeal, I require a POPLA code so the matter can be assessed independently.

Yours faithfully,
[Your Name]
Registered Keeper

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Private parking tickets / Re: Claim Form - 19th Aug
« on: October 27, 2025, 10:56:55 pm »
Thanks again for the swift response!

Does any action normally follow that - do they typically call it a day, or continue with further steps?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Claim Form - 19th Aug
« on: October 27, 2025, 09:36:39 pm »
That’s really helpful. Thank you very much.

What should I expect next?

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Private parking tickets / Re: Claim Form - 19th Aug
« on: October 26, 2025, 12:04:47 am »
Hello,

Unfortunately it appears that DCB Legal/Smart Parking Limited intend to take further action to Small Claims Court.

I received an email from DCB - Bulk Litigation informing of there decision to proceed (email and 1st page of the attachment below).

Followed by a letter from 'Civic National Business Centre' (a few pages also in the attachments below) notifying me its a defended claim and is suitable for small claims track. And if i believe that this is not the appropriate track for the claim then i must complete box C1 an explain why.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5HPwCxVmfYxxNNNS8

I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can any guidance be offered?

Deadline is by 3rd November though I struggle to do it after the 29th as im abroad from then.

Thank you

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Private parking tickets / Re: Claim Form - 19th Aug
« on: September 05, 2025, 10:18:04 am »
Fantastic. Thank you so much.

I’ll respond to it ASAP.

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Private parking tickets / Claim Form - 19th Aug
« on: September 04, 2025, 03:39:45 pm »
Hi

I was recently sent some debt recovery letters from ECP, which I ignored after seeing the advice on this forum.

I’ve now been sent this Claim Form. I missed the mail after returning from holiday and it’s really short notice to reply - I think it’s 14 days + 5, so this Sunday.

The origional contravention happened way back in 2021 and I don’t have any of the origional PCN or remember if I responded and what with.

The driver does remember it was a pub car park, that had one of those terminals in the pub to enter a vehicle registration -  but they didn't.

Here is an image of the form thats been received. Any guidance on the best action for me to now take and likely outcome would be very much appreciated.

https://imgur.com/a/0PgMf8x

Thanks

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