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Sorry for the late reply.  The notification was in my SPAM box.

Probably too late now but there's no trick. All I did was explain that the driver and passenger were customers of Wing Yip and there were receipts to prove it.  Same as your case.  In our case the driver was walking around outside and at one point left the site but as he was there only to drive the customer to Wing Yip it isn't a breach of the parking contract.

Wing Yip won't be interested as the scheme is operated by the external parking company.

A reluctant retraction.  They say they're standing by their guidelines and that he's a very naughty boy but they're going to let him off.

I'm a veteran appellant, not my first rodeo.  Not had to pay any PCNs of my own, bus lane fine, etc in 25 years. Won in court over a speeding charge as well.

I'm not appealing my own PCN here so that adds a new dimension in the sense that elderly residents can't cope with the stress of receiving reams of debt recovery letters through the door.  On a previous occasion when that business started they gave up and paid £125 or something just to make it go away. 

It is nice to know what you all think about this situation and I'm glad to hear your opinions on how it can be dealt with. 

I have tried the "compliant paperwork" defence before and it didn't work, had to try something else.

So what we'll probably do is submit an honest appeal and if that doesn't work we'll pay the fine.

I would rather appeal using the process first than get into a debate on whether or not their paperwork is compliant as the second route is often long and complicated.

When you look up their evidence on the system you can see they have circled a member of my family walking about in the carpark. 

I am still guessing here but I am wondering if "unauthorised parking" means they think the carpark was used to go to another shop or somewhere else other than Wing Yip where the car park is situated. One of them went into the supermarket and the other was roaming about waiting for the shop to be completed.

But it's still a bit of a mystery as "unauthorised parking" says nothing to me.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/362/contents/made

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/wsi/2013/361/contents/made

Parking contraventions are always based upon date of service.

Thanks, I've checked the legislation and they seem letter for letter to be spot on.  So no appeal on those grounds.  For £25 it's not the wife's most expensive parking so I guess I'll just pay it.