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Thanks a lot, will keep you posted

Same two images: Timestamp is 20seconds apart.

Hi, I checked again and found that they have indeed loaded some documents. Here they are:

Quote from: DWMB2 on 28 Aug, 2025 08:54Have they provided any documents alongside that response? Their landowner contract, for example?No, they haven't provided!

Hi, I have receiveid the reply from PPS, regarding the POPLA submission.**"Dear Assessor,The contract that we are seeking payment on has arisen from a breach of the notified terms and conditions of parking stated on the signs that the landowner has requested us to erect and permitted to remain erected at this location. The signage makes it explicitly clear that the site is private land and subject to specific terms and conditions. It states: “PRIVATE LAND. This car park is controlled by Warden Patrols. If you fail to comply with any of the terms and conditions stated below at any time you agree to pay a £100 Parking Charge Notice. PERMIT HOLDERS ONLY. A valid parking permit must be clearly displayed on the windscreen.”The photographic evidence confirms that the appellant’s vehicle was parked in a bay where these terms applied, and no valid permit was displayed at the time of enforcement. Accordingly, the motorist contravened the parking contract and became liable for a parking charge.It is important to note that we do not have to issue a notice directly to the driver of the vehicle, as we can hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. In the present case, we requested the registered keepers’ details from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and issued a Notice to Keeper (NTK) to the registered keeper at the address listed. The evidence does not indicate that the keeper provided us with the relevant information to transfer liability to the driver, and by failing to provide the driver's details, the appellant (the keeper) has assumed liability for this PCN.Paragraph 9(2)(a) of the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 states: “Specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates.”The Parking Charge Notice specifies the vehicle, the location, and the date and time of the contravention. It also includes images of the vehicle parked at the site, which are sufficient to identify the period of parking to which the notice relates. The online images provide a clear indication of the duration the vehicle was observed on site. The PCN is therefore PoFA compliant.According to the Code of Practice, the consideration period is the time the driver is in the process of parking and is allowed to read and understand the applicable terms and conditions and decide whether to accept them and remain or reject them and leave. This period is not a period of free parking and should only be used for its intended purpose of reviewing the terms and conditions of the site. The consideration period may end earlier than the times prescribed in Annex B where there is evidence that the driver has accepted the terms and conditions applying (whether or not they have chosen to read them), which may, for example, be evidenced by the driver parking the vehicle and leaving the premises. There is no evidence of any motorists in view at the time the pictures were being taken, and the vehicle is unattended. The motorist therefore left the site and cannot benefit from the consideration period. Ultimately, it remains the motorist's responsibility to ensure the vehicle is parked in compliance with the site’s terms at all times."Regards,

Quote from: b789 on 13 Aug, 2025 14:44Please confirm you appealed each PCN separately and you have received a separate POPLA code for each rejection?Yes, each PCN has been appealed seperately. Have only received code for one, waiting for other.

As expected, the appeal has been rejected by PPS. They have given POPLA code. Please advise. I will draft a response based on threads here meanwhileThanks

Thanks b789, I got confused by the website. Will email directly.Cheers

Thanks for the reply. Will use this in the appeal. They are being sneaky in the appeal form (see attached).The  trick question is Name and address of driver/keeper (if different from above). I will just strike out the driver wording. 

Hi knowledgeable folks, We received two PCN as shown below. We are looking for advise on how to challenge the same. I can see the discrepancy as notice says to park in marked bay, whereas there are no bays. Any help will be appreciated. PCN 1: PCN 2:Notice: Pic of area: 
Another notice Pic of area