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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for 2x offences, speeding and failure of identification.
« on: August 23, 2025, 01:26:47 pm »Not that it's much help, but if I worked in a profession where the outcome of a letter getting lost in the post could see me dismissed, I might consider an alternative career. However, that's by the way.
If you want to avoid a conviction for “Failing to Provide Driver’s Details” (FtP) there are only two alternatives:
1. Negotiate the arrangement I have suggested.
2. Plead Not Guilty to the charge (without the arrangement).
Option 2 means offering a defence to the charge. All you have is your testimony that the original notice was not received, together with some evidence that a small number of other items have failed to arrive in the post previously. You might succeed. My feeling is that you will not.
If the prosecutor does not accept your offer under option 1 (which is highly unlikely) you will be in the same position as you would be under option 2 – having to defend the FtP charge.
Whilst there is a chance that you may successfully defend the FtP charge, I believe there is a far greater certainty that your offer (to plead guilty to speeding if the FtP charge is dropped) will be accepted.
The arrangement I have suggested is well known to all court users – prosecutors, magistrates and their legal advisors. It is negotiated all the time. Prosecutors understand that administrative issues such as yours occur and generally they have no wish to secure convictions for more serious offences provided they are satisfied that nobody is trying to secure an unjust outcome.
On this site and its now defunct predecessor (“Pepipoo”) I believe that there was only one known occasion when the arrangement was not accepted. In that case the defendant was less than polite to the prosecutor.
If I was asked to rate the chances of a successful outcome to each of your two options I would say >99% for option one, whilst I would say only 50% (at best) for option 2.
Have you heard back from the court yet following your response?
Ok thank you. I might just be catastrophising. I've contacted our mental health helpline and they calmed me down a lot. I think the not responding charge might be looked dimly on if I were convicted (as could be seen as dishonest) but I've followed the advice here so I'm not going to think about things that are unlikely to happen/haven't yet happened. The support line told me to calm down as I'm not going to be struck off for going 25 in a 20 zone.
I haven't heard back yet but they said I should hear back within 28 days on the letter so if nothing has come through by then I will ring and email the court to make sure it's not lost in the post...again
