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I have now received the NTO. Please could i get some assistance on how to build my case.

Thanks,

Sam

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What can i expect from the NTO stage, is there anything i need to do to prepare for the formal representation?

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Thanks a lot for this. Yes i think it makes sense to go for the NTO stage. Especially based on your feedback

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Also. Would they not continue to argue the point that they made on the second side of the PCN " if the public have unhindered access, as at this location, the vehicle would be parked in contravention of the footway ban regardless of the ownership of the land"?
So even if I could make the case that the land appears to be private, they will claim that this doesnt effect the contravention?

Thanks

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Thank you for this. So if i wanted to continue, what would be the best way to proceed?

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Thanks for the fast response. I have had a look at the other thread and i guess if they are being pedantic, then it appears it probably is a public grass verge ( though this was very unclear)

Would there be a potential argument that an informal amnesty applies if i can demonstrate that people have parked there without issue consistently for the past 20 years? Whilst it is a grass verge, so i can understand now why it would be a contravention, from an enforcement perspective, it clearly doesn't impact any footpath, it would be reasonable to assume it is private land considering that there is a sign right there that indicates as such, and someone has parked there every day for 20 years without issue. I am not sure if this would help my case at all, but i had literally spoken to a parking warden the previous week who told me that he was told not to give tickets on the area since it was private land.

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Hi,

I live in an apartment block on a cul-de-sac. On one side of the road is a proper pavement that residents use to walk to their homes. On the opposite side is a small grass verge with an indentation from years of car parking. There’s a sign on the wall behind it that reads “Private Residents Parking Only.”

To avoid blocking access up the cul-de-sac, residents (myself included) have parked on this grass verge for years. I’ve lived here for four years, and someone has parked there every day during that time. I’ve also checked Google Earth satellite imagery, and it shows cars parked in that same spot going back as far as 2006.

There is no reason anyone would want or need to walk on this grass verge — it leads nowhere, is not connected to any pedestrian route, and is clearly not used as a footway.

Recently, I received a PCN for parking on this verge. I appealed, but the council rejected it. I’ll attach:
Photos of where I parked, a photo of the opposite side of the road showing the actual pedestrian footway, and the council’s appeal response.

I’m looking for advice on whether I have grounds to challenge this further, especially considering:

The area is clearly marked as private, it’s not used by pedestrians, there’s a long-standing history of unchallenged parking there, and I had a reasonable belief that the area was either private or subject to informal amnesty, as described in the council’s own policy.

Thanks in advance,
Sam

Location: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5843322,-0.2203413,20.64z/data=!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Street view: https://maps.app.goo.gl/k3RaxSHNMY1pugJH8 (note there is a car parked there even in the street view)
Second Street View: https://maps.app.goo.gl/79WMr5uAqwBo7bZTA ( this one you can change the date and see that there is always a car parked there)
PCN and view of parking spot and pavement: https://imgur.com/a/mW74c5a


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