Show Posts - Benj192

Just to let you know, NCP have replied to confirm that the charge has been cancelled.Appreciate your help in saving me £100!

Thank you for your help B789 and DWMB2, I really appreciate it. I have sent the appeal off, so lets see what their response is.

Good Afternoon everyone, NCP have now issued the Parking Charge to Hirer to my employer and it looks like I can appeal the charge on their website as the keeper of the vehicle.  The letter states the below - Am I correct in thinking that this means that they do not know who the driver was but as they only 'invite' the keeper to name the driver, they actually have no legal route to compel us to name the driver - Making the charge unenforceable? QuoteThe driver of the above vehicle is liable for a Parking Charge of £100. This charge relatesto the period of parking specified in this document, the charge having been incurred due to thefollowing breach of the terms and conditions of use: No Payment, and liability for the same havingbeen brought to the attention of the driver by clear signage in and around the site (BirminghamAirport Drop off). The breach was recorded by an approved ANPR camera.Payment is now required to the sum of £100, which must be paid no later than 28 days from thedate this Parking Charge is given. However, if payment is received within 14 days from thedate this Parking Charge is given, then a reduced amount of £60 will be accepted in full andfinal settlement.We, National Car Parks Limited, are the creditor. At the time of this notice we do not know boththe name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and invite the keeper / hirer:(i) to pay the unpaid Parking Charge; or(ii) if the keeper/hirer was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify the creditor of the name and acurrent address for service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driverTo appeal, I need to enter Appellant Details, where I can select that I am the vehicle's keeper at the time that the contravention occurred and then enter my name, address and contact details. There is then a text box to enter an appeal. Please can you help with what to write for the appeal? Thank you in advance.

Quote from: b789 on 30 Jul, 2025 13:05Out of interest, is anyone else permitted to drive the car you have been issued? For example, are you allowed to use it for non work purposes on days off? If so, can your partner or other member of your family drive the vehicle?I ask because you MUST avoid your employer stating that you were the driver? Unless you are the exclusive driver of the vehicle, there could be a problem in what is otherwise a very easy PCN to get cancelled.No one but you know who was the driver on the day. The lease company certainly don't know and the Hirer (your employer) won't know, unless you are the sole permitted driver.The car is kept in my possession at all times and I am allowed to use the vehicle for personal use, as well as business use. The car is covered by the company's group car insurance. My employer has previously told me that anyone would be covered by the insurance to drive the vehicle but would prefer I limit it to myself and spouse only. I have asked my employer to advise NCP that I am the hirer of the vehicle - Hopefully they do this and do not indicate the driver.

Thank you for your help, I will ask my employer / the lease company to name me as the hirer and then wait and see what I receive in the post. I will update this thread once the letter comes through.

Quote from: DWMB2 on 30 Jul, 2025 10:34Is the vehicle subsequently leased to you by your employer (like a salary sacrifice, or employment benefit etc.)? If so, the process should be roughly:

• The lease company should name your employer as the hirer of the vehicle. At this point, they will receive a notice addressed to them.
• Your employer can appeal directly (we can advise) or they then name you as the person hiring the vehicle from them, and you can appeal

Thank you. Yes, the car is leased to me by my employer as an employment benefit and the BIK is deducted from my monthly pay. On point 2, I think my employer may be hesitant/unwilling to appeal the charge, so I think I will stand the best chance of them naming me as the person hiring the vehicle and appealing it myself. I assume if they do name me, I will receive a notice addressed to myself - How do I best go about appealing this once received?

I have just been made aware that my vehicle has received a parking ticket at the NCP free drop off area at Birmingham Airport - You get 10 minutes free but they have provided photos of my vehicle leaving 13 minutes after entering. I am not the registered keeper of the vehicle - My employer leases it as a company car and I am the only driver of it. The lease company has forwarded the parking charge to my employer but it looks like this is still addressed to the lease company, though I do not know at this stage if they have notified NCP who the driver was at the time. It looks like the lease company did not send us the parking charge when it first arrived and they are only just making us aware now that they have received a final reminder from NCP.Any advice would be greatly appreciated.