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 I just wanted to say a public thank you to Mr Mustard here. His advice and judgement throughout this protracted appeal have been absolutely spot on. Haringey ignore the facts of their own evidence and repeatedly made things up (and imaginary enforcement protocol, anyone?), it appears to scare me into paying. Mr Mustard was certain they would fold eventually and they did. It also meant I got make a small donation to the North London Hospice, which was pleasure and a million time more satisfying then paying Haringey’s speculative PCNs.

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I think that the problem in this case is with the traffic order. Haringey have enacted one which they think enables them to suspend parking in any road at any time for an 18 month period. Thus they create one order and only pay one fee to advertise it thus avoiding all those little weekly announcements you used to see in the local paper and all the fees. Motorists are therefore not on proper notice of upcoming works. I have never yet got as far as the tribunal with this argument.

I am happy to write and submit all the challenges for the OP but have slightly changed the charity system. I still work pro bono (for free) but ask motorists to pay £40 directly to the North London Hospice before I start. I can be emailed on mrmustard@zoho.com

I think both of these PCNs are beatable given the correct approach. I am well known in Haringey Parking.
Okay, I'm up for this giving this a punt! I'll drop you an email.

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Thank you both, I'm going to to give that a go and will let you know how I get on. Very much appreciate the advice.

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I park my car on Wroxham Gardens in Haringey, which is a about a 3-4 min walk from where I live because (i) there are no parking restrictions, (ii) there is always space, (iii) it's dead-end some no through traffic to damage car, and (iv) I rarely use my car, so it's a safe, convenient place to leave it.


I parked there sometime 2 July (looking at when I last used ringo to park somewhere else) and hadn’t used it until yesterday 12 July. When I collected it had been moved to the other side of the road - and there were two PCNs attached to it.


Looking at the evidence online, there was a suspension of park on 7 and 8 July. In the evidence pictures there are clearly signs, I didn’t see them when I parked, but assume they were there (I think reversed into the spot, so missed the sign behind he car which would have been obscured by another car, then got out driver side and cut across the road towards the park path)


I suspect there isn’t much grounds for appeal (Haringey have the ringo parking data so know I parked there on 2 July or later) for leaving the car there but would the second ticket be a continuous contravention  and worth appealing?



Streeview: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2vFornncVrARNGPVA


PCNs: https://imgur.com/a/ofaCwoj

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