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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / SPLIT TOPIC: Enfield, 33c bus gate 33c, Bull Lane N18
« on: July 04, 2025, 12:22:12 pm »
Did OP get anywhere with this?
I've received a fine for going into the same bus lane, yet there was no blue sign indicating operational hours after the side road break (there is a pole but sign is missing).
And after the bus stop, there wasn't even a 'bus lane' sign on the floor, only the thick white line. So I mistakenly assumed the bus lane had ended.
I also crossed the line very far after the bus stop, right at the end of the bus lane, and have read that some councils will give you 20M grace (not sure if Enfield would).
I appealed it and it got rejected.
They wrote: "The bus lane is marked by roadside signs and road markings on the area of the carriageway designated as a Bus Lane in accordance with the Traffic Signs & Regulations and General Directions 2022.
There is a white line at the edge of the bus lane and a blue information plate where each part of the bus lane commences giving the hours of operation; with the bus lane the words "BUS LANE" are painted on the carriageway. You shouldn't cross this unless you're allowed to do so.
As such I have checked these and can confirm that they are correct and in line with the regulations. Please see the video footage recorded against your PCN.
The bus stop you refer to is contained within the bus lane. As such, I am not prepared to cancel this PCN under the grounds which you have presented."
Except there is no signage! As I told them!
What do you think? Should I go to tribunal?
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I've received a fine for going into the same bus lane, yet there was no blue sign indicating operational hours after the side road break (there is a pole but sign is missing).
And after the bus stop, there wasn't even a 'bus lane' sign on the floor, only the thick white line. So I mistakenly assumed the bus lane had ended.
I also crossed the line very far after the bus stop, right at the end of the bus lane, and have read that some councils will give you 20M grace (not sure if Enfield would).
I appealed it and it got rejected.
They wrote: "The bus lane is marked by roadside signs and road markings on the area of the carriageway designated as a Bus Lane in accordance with the Traffic Signs & Regulations and General Directions 2022.
There is a white line at the edge of the bus lane and a blue information plate where each part of the bus lane commences giving the hours of operation; with the bus lane the words "BUS LANE" are painted on the carriageway. You shouldn't cross this unless you're allowed to do so.
As such I have checked these and can confirm that they are correct and in line with the regulations. Please see the video footage recorded against your PCN.
The bus stop you refer to is contained within the bus lane. As such, I am not prepared to cancel this PCN under the grounds which you have presented."
Except there is no signage! As I told them!
What do you think? Should I go to tribunal?
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