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Ok update on the situation. Keeper received a charge certificate on 26th june. Waiting for the next stage to make declaration, I dont know the full ins and outs, but to quote above "At the OfR stage, you submit a Statutory Declaration to the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC)", which is what we are waiting for. I presume we receive a letter from the traffic enforcement centre. keeper received a letter from newham council dated 14th July just urging keeper to pay, and some BS of cost of living - funny how the cost of living information wont give people on universal credit some leeway to pay a means tested lesser charge to close this. But I digress. Am I correct in assuming newham council have to pay a bigger fee than £10 to the TEC. So they are just buying more time from the keeper to get this charge certificate paid?

i dont make the first person/third person switch in formal writngs, just messed up here on the ftla forum as I wasn't concentrating. I wrote and submitted this on behalf of wife with her permission. Her name was used on the forms, contacts etc. her email. So for all intents of purposes she is the one posting the representation.the appeal:QuoteDear Sir/MadamThe vehicle was used by my husband during the time of contravention. He was using the vehicle for delivery. I would need some time to look at the TMO/TRO to see if there are any dispensations made for access into Browning road. I have attached husband’s information, his pay showing the date and time of the shift, and secondary source confirming the same information from the 3rd party insurance company called INSHUR. As well as his Google timeline showing his movement. I have noted that the purpose of the LTN on the councils own publications is to prevent the rat run and surplus traffic that runs through busy periods. I feel the LTN over reaches its intended purpose as the rat runs are only an issue during commuter times and school closing times. You can see from the evidence presented that my husband is in the area for work purposes, delivering parcels. He was not using the road as a transit route during a commute. My husband was delivering on one side of the LTN and his next delivery was just over on the other side of the LTN when he crossed through without noticing the signs. I will be requesting copies of the TRO/TMO to check the validity of the signage in relation to the documents. Kind Regards[wifes name]

Quote from: Incandescent on 29 Jun, 2026 18:37Fear not ! At the OfR stage, you submit a Statutory Declaration to the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC),  not the council. Provided the SD is received within the period allowed from service of the OfR, your SD will be automatically accepted, you don't have to prove anything. The only time the council can object to an SD is when it is submitted out-of-time.Have you checked on the Newham web pages to see the status of the PCN and its events log ? (I'm assuming they do have one)Anyway, main advice is DO NOT PAY THE CC, but wait for the OfR.  The time is now well overdue for the law to be changed to insist on enforcement documents being sent by tracked mail, the councils make shedloads of money from PCNs so can well afford it. Have you had any difficulties with mail in the recent past at all ?I have gone into the appeals page to get an events log, met with a page that just says the out of time for appeals message. on the view evidence link, i only get the images and videos of vehicle, no events log.Mail is fine here. I would have had to miss 2 mails, the rejection of IR as well as the increase fine letter from discount to full.Similarly on the RKs email. they have acknowledged receipt of submission of appeal. then no email since. But another PCN with the same council was appealed in June and accepted after a few days. So emails from them are being received and delivered to the inbox.

Quote from: tincombe on 29 Jun, 2026 18:47I sent the appeal in on 5th May, within the discount period I beleive.I forgot about this and now today on a letter dated 26th June with a charge certificate of £240the keeper has not received any letters or emails about the outcome of the represenation. The keeper has received the confirmation of represenation in their email and newham do send outcomes of represenations by emails as wellAlarm bells ringing, pl put my mind at rest. Why change from the first person to the third? Was the PCN addressed to you by name?THE RK is my wife. but I deal with all PCNs for the family and I drive her car most of the time. Most of the time I am appealing as her with her permission

Hi HippocratesThe web code is 144ST340

I sent the appeal in on 5th May, within the discount period I beleive. I have the representation code and the contents of my represenation. I just left it to them to either do a yay or nay while I look through the tro (I haven't managed to get onto that yet). I forgot about this and now today on a letter dated 26th June with a charge certificate of £240 the keeper has not received any letters or emails about the outcome of the represenation. The keeper has received the confirmation of represenation in their email and newham do send outcomes of represenations by emails as well. Where does that leave me? What am I supposed to do now. There is nobody I can get to on the phone at newham council. Spend 10 minutes on automated phone line and it just closes the phone at the end with no option to speak to anyone.How di I prove on the order of recovery stage that no appeals were received. they may have had a IT glitch with stopped appeals from going out. But will they even know or accept that?

Ive had a ticket get cancelled by the LA as TMO described the loading bay I was parked in as being x meters south from junction with vicarage road. (the road was actually called vicarage drive). they just cancelled the PCN at LA.

Was on delivery had several delivries on Browning road. I do not have the record. but I have my pay record for the time and I have google timeline showing me stopping all over the area. The CCTV seems to show I'm turning right into the restricted road, but there is no road to the right, I was parked offside doing delivery and probably had more dleiveries just up the road which made me not see the sign. I think I was parked close to the sign that my sun visor probably didn't allow me to notice the sign when I got back in my car and proceeded to drive on. Web code hidden to prevent anyone abusing the form. I will upload all the media in the evidence page shortly.I have hidden the webcode, so I have uploaded all the media here:VIDEO LINK:  https://forumshares.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/newham/cctv4.aviI'd like to look at the traffic management order to see if there is something in there that has dispensation for "access" in a previous case I took it to tribunal and won (a sign I didn't notice because I was doing multi drop), that time they left something in the open about restrictions to motorvehicle, except for access. The sign didnt say access. And adjudicator granted it because the sign does not comply with the TMO/TRO. ALthough I'm short of time and on th elast day of discount, not sure if I should just send an appeal now - filling in anything and do more research and take it to tribunal. Or if I should lose the discount and research and file a proper informal appeal (in case they do offer the discount again after rejecting informal appeal). the gazzette notice is here. https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3687605Read 3a on https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3687605Quote(a) a prohibition of vehicles proceeding in a southerly direction from entering Browning Road at its junction with Rectory Road, except for buses; taxis; pedal cycles; A1 access permit holders, refuse collection vehicles and certain other vehicles in certain circumstances; I'm hoping on the actual TMO it has except for access.

ok I understand how. When I was searching, i hit the search from the top right hand corner and I think it only searched a section of the forum so I only saw my own threads. So i thougth Id do a wider internet search, and perhaps search the oldest and biggest consumer financial forum on the UK internet to see if they have cases recorded there. I have now done a full sitewide forum search. I can now see 156 results too. Not sure why earlier searches didn't give me the same result. The search results do repeat the same thread multiple times and there is a prolific repeated search for CPMS vs Akanda (which reappears many times and is a different company to CPM altogether).

Quote from: jfollows on 29 Apr, 2026 11:59I searched the forum forCPM courtand the search returned 156 examples.money saving expert? I see 25 threads, which forum are you looking at? the mse threads go far back as 2018 mind,.though as recent as 2024, they took someone to court for not paying to parking, entering and leaving a car park for 12 minutes and driver won in court. But I am surprised they actually took them to court over this.  Maybe it was the strongest short stay infraction they thought they had to try and set a precendant, so they tried their luck.https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81181316#Comment_81181316?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=%22CPM+court%22

I'm out of options, this will have to go to court then. Does CPM take people to court?I googled and found a few - they seem to be persist parkers who just used the residents bays in the apartment block they live in because they didn't want to pay the monthly parking permits. So the CPM used gladstones to take them to court, because obviously the cpm can roll multipe infractions into one case and pursue them and make it worth their while. The other question is, if the court goes against my way, what is the likely amount that defendant can owe? AI is saying it could be £300. But I thought small claims court will only award the first discount parking charge if it goes against the defendant. 

the really dodgy driving I have witnessed on the roads, is not from newly passed uk drivers. I suspect a lot of them are foreign drivers who passed in their country and got the license and are now eligible to drive in UK using their foreign license for 12 months before they are required to pass a UK test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSpvLBzoAGg 5 minute test in india.

I hate it when people ask for help and then just go AWOL and dont come back to report the outcome. Got the same ticket, wanted to see what the situation is.

Driving lessons seems so expensive these days, £30 an hour.I think if the instructor believes the student is ready for their test, they should be the best mentor for the student. They cant stop the student from taking the test too early. But they wont allow their vehicle to be used if the student is completely unlikely to pass. Students coming through the professional tuiton route are vetted informally for their suitability for the test. It would be just excessive beauracracy for these learner drivers. I think the current system works fine with students under professional tuition. But maybe drivers taught by family need the minimum terms. But how do you enforce this.I rarely come across issues with p plate drivers on the road. They just drive very slow and taken more time to make decisions and figure out what lane to be in. Its those drivers who are overconfident in their abilities that are a problem on the road.

Went to Greenwich museum on Sunday, found on street bays which were residents or paybyphone only. 2 hours max stay. Or so it seemed.The plaque closest to the bays had all its text scrubbed out. But the other bays around the areas were still intact.I would have still paid on the app if it was cheap enough, the app said £12 for 2 hours. Its a blooming Sunday so I thought sod it. Cost of living and all that. Ill take photo of the signage with intention of appealing any tickets.Didn't get any tickets. So win. Would like to know for sure if this means free parking in future.My car is the 2nd from the end, (fully in the bay) that sign is the nearest sign (and only sign) attached to this row of bays. The parking restriction I quoted earlier is from parking signs from the opposite side of the road and further along on the road.