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i dont make the first person/third person switch in formal writngs, just messed up here on the ftla forum as I wasn't concentrating. I wrote and submitted this on behalf of wife with her permission. Her name was used on the forms, contacts etc. her email. So for all intents of purposes she is the one posting the representation.

the appeal:

Dear Sir/Madam
The vehicle was used by my husband during the time of contravention. He was using the vehicle for delivery. I would need some time to look at the TMO/TRO to see if there are any dispensations made for access into Browning road.

I have attached husband’s information, his pay showing the date and time of the shift, and secondary source confirming the same information from the 3rd party insurance company called INSHUR.
As well as his Google timeline showing his movement.
I have noted that the purpose of the LTN on the councils own publications is to prevent the rat run and surplus traffic that runs through busy periods. I feel the LTN over reaches its intended purpose as the rat runs are only an issue during commuter times and school closing times.
You can see from the evidence presented that my husband is in the area for work purposes, delivering parcels. He was not using the road as a transit route during a commute.
My husband was delivering on one side of the LTN and his next delivery was just over on the other side of the LTN when he crossed through without noticing the signs.
I will be requesting copies of the TRO/TMO to check the validity of the signage in relation to the documents.
Kind Regards

[wifes name]

I sent the appeal in on 5th May, within the discount period I beleive.

I forgot about this and now today on a letter dated 26th June with a charge certificate of £240

the keeper has not received any letters or emails about the outcome of the represenation. The keeper has received the confirmation of represenation in their email and newham do send outcomes of represenations by emails as well

Alarm bells ringing, pl put my mind at rest.

Why change from the first person to the third?

Was the PCN addressed to you by name?

THE RK is my wife. but I deal with all PCNs for the family and I drive her car most of the time.

Most of the time I am appealing as her with her permission

I sent the appeal in on 5th May, within the discount period I beleive.

I have the representation code and the contents of my represenation. I just left it to them to either do a yay or nay while I look through the tro (I haven't managed to get onto that yet).

I forgot about this and now today on a letter dated 26th June with a charge certificate of £240

the keeper has not received any letters or emails about the outcome of the represenation. The keeper has received the confirmation of represenation in their email and newham do send outcomes of represenations by emails as well.

Where does that leave me? What am I supposed to do now. There is nobody I can get to on the phone at newham council. Spend 10 minutes on automated phone line and it just closes the phone at the end with no option to speak to anyone.

How di I prove on the order of recovery stage that no appeals were received. they may have had a IT glitch with stopped appeals from going out. But will they even know or accept that?

Was on delivery had several delivries on Browning road. I do not have the record. but I have my pay record for the time and I have google timeline showing me stopping all over the area.

The CCTV seems to show I'm turning right into the restricted road, but there is no road to the right, I was parked offside doing delivery and probably had more dleiveries just up the road which made me not see the sign. I think I was parked close to the sign that my sun visor probably didn't allow me to notice the sign when I got back in my car and proceeded to drive on.

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I'd like to look at the traffic management order to see if there is something in there that has dispensation for "access" in a previous case I took it to tribunal and won (a sign I didn't notice because I was doing multi drop), that time they left something in the open about restrictions to motorvehicle, except for access. The sign didnt say access. And adjudicator granted it because the sign does not comply with the TMO/TRO.

ALthough I'm short of time and on th elast day of discount, not sure if I should just send an appeal now - filling in anything and do more research and take it to tribunal. Or if I should lose the discount and research and file a proper informal appeal (in case they do offer the discount again after rejecting informal appeal).

the gazzette notice is here.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3687605

Read 3a on https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3687605

(a) a prohibition of vehicles proceeding in a southerly direction from entering Browning Road at its junction with Rectory Road, except for buses; taxis; pedal cycles; A1 access permit holders, refuse collection vehicles and certain other vehicles in certain circumstances;

I'm hoping on the actual TMO it has except for access.

I searched the forum for

CPM court

and the search returned 156 examples.

money saving expert? I see 25 threads, which forum are you looking at? the mse threads go far back as 2018 mind,.

though as recent as 2024, they took someone to court for not paying to parking, entering and leaving a car park for 12 minutes and driver won in court. But I am surprised they actually took them to court over this.  Maybe it was the strongest short stay infraction they thought they had to try and set a precendant, so they tried their luck.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81181316#Comment_81181316?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=%22CPM+court%22

the really dodgy driving I have witnessed on the roads, is not from newly passed uk drivers.

I suspect a lot of them are foreign drivers who passed in their country and got the license and are now eligible to drive in UK using their foreign license for 12 months before they are required to pass a UK test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSpvLBzoAGg 5 minute test in india.

Driving lessons seems so expensive these days, £30 an hour.

I think if the instructor believes the student is ready for their test, they should be the best mentor for the student. They cant stop the student from taking the test too early. But they wont allow their vehicle to be used if the student is completely unlikely to pass. Students coming through the professional tuiton route are vetted informally for their suitability for the test. It would be just excessive beauracracy for these learner drivers.

I think the current system works fine with students under professional tuition. But maybe drivers taught by family need the minimum terms. But how do you enforce this.

I rarely come across issues with p plate drivers on the road. They just drive very slow and taken more time to make decisions and figure out what lane to be in. Its those drivers who are overconfident in their abilities that are a problem on the road.

https://www.uk-carparkmanagement.co.uk/appeals-centre

it seems that the appeals service is only open for 21 days, not 28 days which is the norm. The email did not make that clear. IAS seems like a complete load of nonsense. the website of the so called independant appeals service seems like a uni project thrown up in a weekend.

Is it worthwhile complaining about this racquet between the IAS and CPM to the ADR? Why the mismatched 21 days and then 28 days?