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Date of PCN 7th May, deemed served Friday 9th, so you have missed the discount and have nothing to lose by making reps (in rejecting these, Bristol may re-offer discount), as long as you do not miss the deadline (Friday next, 6th.June).

Bristol are still asking for the toll as well as the penalty - this was a relevant point so wait for the experts to chip in, but do not miss deadline.

thank you John.  This is another point that I have been looking at, however, I have found the following from
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/1783/regulation/4/made

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Imposition of penalty charge
4.—(1) A charging scheme may provide that a penalty charge is to be imposed in respect of a motor vehicle where—

(a)the motor vehicle has been used or kept on a designated road;

(b)events have occurred by reference to the happening of which a road user charge is imposed by the charging scheme; and

(c)the road user charge has not been paid in full within the time and in the manner in which it is required by the charging scheme to be paid.

(2) A charging scheme may further provide that a penalty charge is to be imposed in respect of—

(a)the release of a motor vehicle from an immobilisation device fixed to it in accordance with regulation 25;

(b)the removal of a motor vehicle in accordance with regulation 27;

(c)the storage and release from storage of a motor vehicle so removed; and

(d)the disposal of a motor vehicle so removed in accordance with regulation 28.

(3) If a charging scheme so provides a penalty charge is to be payable.

(4) A charging scheme is to specify whether a penalty charge referred to in paragraph (1) or (2) is payable in addition to the road user charge or instead of such charge.

Under section 4 above, it looks like the Council ARE permitted to specify whether the charge can also be included.

@cp8759 - Would you be able to advise if this is correct please?

If that is the case, it looks like my grounds are very slim.

Thanks all

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Unfortunately, there is no time limit in the CAZ regulations for service of a PCN. The only limit is one of fairness, so a PCN served more then 2-3 months since the alleged contravention date cold be argued on this basis. As public bodies, councils are under a duty to act fairly and in the public interest under common law.

So I'm afraid the time they've taken to send out the PCN is not a slam-dunk win at appeal. Any reason for not paying the CAZ charge ? If you tell us more, there may be the bones of a reasonable appeal. In addition to this, Bristol put the CAZ toll onto the PCN as well as the penalty. There are no powers in the regulations for them to do this, so it is a procedural impropriety. However, you'll only get it tested at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, with the full PCN penalty in play.

Please also post the PCN.

hanks for your reply - I've reposted using Imgur as that may work better and hopefully you should be able to see it now?

Interestingly, the council system says the vehicle make and model is "Unknown" - If they don't know what it is, how can they know it's chargeable?

Reasons for being in the zone, essentially by mistake, I didn't even realise this road was in the zone. I'm sure they would argue there were signs up etc and I'm sure there are, but I genuinely wasn't aware I'd gone through until it was too late.

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Hi All,

So, after a trip to Bristol in April, the Keeper of this car (me) received a letter saying there was an unpaid CAZ Charge.
The letter was received on 13th May 2025.

The alleged contravention took place on the 1st April 2025, and the date of notice and posting was 7th May 2025, some 36 days later.

I have read through other cases here where people talk about 28 days being the permitted time for notice to be served but I can't confirm this, so essentially what I am asking is:

Is it ok that the council have taken 36 days to send this notice out? and even longer for me to actually get it

The circumstances for being in the zone on that day were not the best anyway, and this £69 charge really is a kick in the teeth.

I'm also aware the deadline to reply is approaching, so advice on what (if anything) can be done would be much appreciated.

Many thanks








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