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Before going further, who is who here?

You refer to 'your' defence, but previously you have stated clearly that you are not the keeper.

Do you have the, now, Respondent's signed authorisation to act on their behalf? I got the impression in earlier posts that you were just 'winging it' and signing as the keeper. That might have worked with PE, but these are now legal proceedings and who's who must be clarified IMO.

Correct, I am not the keeper. The keeper/respondent is a relative. Up to now I have helped them with the responses/appeals and obviously written the defence above. They are in agreement with this, I haven’t got written authorisation but can get it. I didn’t see any option to declare this on the court response other than a ‘legal representative’ which I took to mean a professional, so yes just signed it as the keeper with their knowledge and consent. From my reading on the forum it’s possible to have a friend/relative (I.e. me) act on the respondent behalf at the mediation call. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m a bit out of my depth with all this.

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You have to file a defence or AoS by 20 July.
If you file AoS you have until 3 August to file a defence.

Do not use a boilerplate/template defence, instead construct something which responds to the stated Particulars of Claim (woeful) and specifics to your case and builds on the appeals you have already constructed.

DCB Legal will almost certainly discontinue rather than paying the court fee, but that’s some way down the line and your research will have shown you what’s involved between now and then.

It’s DCB Legal who is handling this, not Parking Eye. Of course Parking Eye is the claimant, but they’ve farmed the work out to DCB Legal.

Hi, I've posted my propsed defence upthread which I need to submit by tomorrow I'd really appreciate and be reassured by any feedback you can give on what I've posted.

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Original PCN images




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I need to submit a defence imminently, I'd really appreciate it if someone could look over the defence I've drafted above and let me know if it's ok. I have no idea.

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I would immediately send a Subject Access Request to PE requesting all info including the original PCN.

Hi I have had a response to the subject access request which includes the original PCN. Should I post it here?

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Hi, please could someone advise if the defence posted above looks ok to submit?

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I would immediately send a Subject Access Request to PE requesting all info including the original PCN.

OK will do.

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Here is my defence, based on previous appeals. Please can you let me know if it's any good?

1. Preliminary & Clarification of Parties
The Defendant is the Registered Keeper of the vehicle with registration mark [].

The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed, or any relief at all.

2. Response to Particulars of Claim
Paragraph 1 & 2: Lack of Service & Contradictory Timelines
Paragraphs 1 and 2 are denied. The Claimant states the date of the alleged contravention was 12/07/2025.

The Claimant asserted in subsequent correspondence that the first postal communication was issued on 16/07/2025. However, the Defendant never received any such original Notice to Keeper (NtK).

The only document received by the Defendant was a "Reminder Notice" dated 25/07/2025. The Claimant is put to strict proof to reconcile their administrative timeline and demonstrate that a compliant original NtK was lawfully served.

Paragraph 3: Driver Liability & Signage
Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant was not the driver of the vehicle at the material time and is under no legal obligation to identify the driver to a private entity.

It is denied that any "prominently displayed terms" were breached. The signage at this location is restrictive, ambiguous, and contractually void (see Section 3 below).

Paragraph 4: Keeper Liability under PoFA 2012
Paragraph 4 is denied. The Claimant has failed to satisfy the strict statutory requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), Schedule 4 to transfer liability from the driver to the Registered Keeper.

Under PoFA Schedule 4, paragraph 9(5), a mandatory 14-day window applies for the service of a Notice to Keeper where no parking ticket was given on the vehicle.

The Claimant is put to strict proof that an original, compliant NtK was generated and actually entered the postal system via independent evidence (e.g., a Royal Mail certificate of posting or franking manifest) to establish the presumption of service. A mere system printout or log from the Claimant's own database does not suffice. Without this, keeper liability cannot apply.

3. Substantive Defence Points
A. Breach of the Equality Act 2010 & Single Code of Practice
The vehicle was utilizing a designated disabled bay late in the evening to set down/collect a disabled occupant.

Under Sections 4.1 and 4.2 of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) and the Equality Act 2010, parking operators have a strict statutory duty to make reasonable adjustments. This includes ensuring terms are visible at a lower/wheelchair-accessible level from disabled bays and ensuring clear guidance exists regarding concessions or additional time.

No readable terms or payment/registration terminals were visible or accessible from the disabled bay in question. Expecting a disabled motorist to navigate away from the bay to a remote, unlit, or inaccessible "reception" terminal constitutes unlawful indirect discrimination.

B. Uncertainty of Terms ("0 hours 0 minutes" Max Stay)
The Claimant’s paperwork dynamically states that a charge is triggered if a vehicle remains longer than a "0 hours 0 minutes max stay time".

A contractual term dictating a maximum stay of zero minutes is absurd, structurally impossible to comply with, and void for uncertainty.

Furthermore, the Claimant’s notices fail to identify a singular breach, instead providing a contradictory menu of mutually exclusive infractions (e.g., failed to pay vs. failed to input VRM vs. overstaying). Under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (ss. 62 & 68), these terms lack core transparency and are unenforceable.

C. Forbidding Signage (No Contractual Offer)
The Claimant states that parking between 6:00 PM and 2:00 AM (Monday–Saturday) is strictly reserved for "Buzz Bingo patrons only."

If the driver was not a patron, the signage is entirely prohibitive and forms no contractual offer; it merely forbids parking. A breach of a forbidding sign sounds strictly in Trespass, for which only the actual landowner can sue for liquidated damages (which would be £0.00). The Claimant cannot invent a contractual fee where no contract was offered.

If the driver was a permitted patron, the issue lies entirely with the Claimant’s inaccessible terminal configuration and systemic failure to accommodate disabled motorists.

D. Artificial Inflation of the Claim (Abuse of Process)
The Claimant is claiming a principal sum of £170.00, representing the initial £100 parking charge artificially inflated by £70.00 described as "damages" or debt collection costs.

PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 4(5) explicitly caps the maximum sum recoverable from a registered keeper at the amount specified in the original Notice to Keeper (typically £100).

The addition of arbitrary "debt collection fees" or "damages" represents double recovery, violates the Civil Procedure Rules, and constitutes an abuse of the court process. The claim should be struck out on this basis alone.

4. Conclusion
The Claimant failed to engage with the Defendant’s formal appeal/complaint, refused to provide the requested evidence, and failed to issue a POPLA verification code as mandated by PPSCoP Clause 11.2 and 8.4.

The Court is invited to dismiss the claim in its entirety and award the Defendant costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g) due to the Claimant's unreasonable, predatory conduct and incoherent pleadings.

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Did you ever get a copy of the original PCN?


No, the first letter we got was a 'reminder' the 'original'  PCN was never received.

I have gathered/found all correspondence I have regarding this:

July-25 PCN "Reminder" issue date 16/7/26. This was appealed online in August (and rejected). Subsequent appeal was ignored.
Aug-25 Letter from parking eye stating they are now able to recover from registered keeper.
Sep-25 LETTER BEFORE CLAIM, from Parking Eye, juts found this came in September but I overlooked/misfiled it.
Feb-26 DBL "Final reminder" payment demand
Apr-26 Another DBL "Final reminder" payment demand. I thought this was letter before claim that I'd lost but I found it and it was just a 'reminder'.
Jun-26 County court claim form

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Unfortunately the claimant is Parking Eye.
Doc images attached, I didn't include all of the response forms.




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Hi Thanks,

Will upload the docs once I've hidden the personal info.

I think I've messed up I did get a letter a few weeks ago but I put it aside without reading it properly and forgot about it and now I can't find it.

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Hello again, I have now received a letter from HM Courts & Tribunals Service together with a Claim form that needs to be completed and returned. Please can you advise or direct me to information on how to respond, I don't want to make any mistakes.
From the notes included I assume the response should be the option that "you disagree with the claim or if you want to make a claim against the claimant(counterclaim)." and so "You must send either the completed acknowledgement of service from or a defence form to the court within 14 days of the date of service. If you send the acknowledgement of service you must send a defence to the court to arrive no later than 28 days from the date of service."
I can upload the docs received if needed.

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Thank you. The searches of DCB Legal are reassuring. Can I just check, it appears there will be some mediation/legal stuff involved, does the registered keeper need to directly participate in this, I ask because they have health issues and this would cause them a lot of additional stress. I am happy to act on their behalf though, if this is allowed?

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Hello again,
We are now stunned to receive a letter from 'Debt Collection Bailiffs' claiming "we wrote to you recently regarding an unpaid parking charge...". Have not received any response or further communication whatsoever  from Parking Eye or this company via email or post, since sending the formal complaint in September!
Image of letter attached.
Please advise how to proceed?

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Your first appeal was rejected because they said it was too late. So you were advised to send a formal complaint, which they are obliged to also treat as an appeal. I drafted it and told you what to do.

Have you sent it or not? Reply #16 refers.

I have sent it as of now. Thanks for your assistance and patience.

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