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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Glasgow City, code 73 parked without paying, Kelvingrove Park electric vehicle charging bay
« on: May 28, 2025, 11:29:42 am »
I forgot to ask, do you think it is worth appealing in any case? The 14 day period for the reduced PCN charge ends on June 3rd.

If it is worth appealing, can anyone provide some advice on what to write?

Thanks in advance for any help!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Glasgow City, code 73 parked without paying, Kelvingrove Park electric vehicle charging bay
« on: May 28, 2025, 09:54:21 am »
Thanks for your advice. One could reasonably argue that the 'payment machine', as stated on the board you show in google maps, is the charging station. Also, for 'Charges apply at all times' this could be seen as covered by the charge for charging the car.

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Frankly, you will have to face the fact that councils and other car park operators increasingly do charge parking fees for EV bays unless they have an agreement with the charger company for a payment for use of the bays.

Yes I guess I will have to, but I still think it's bizarre. They may get £50 out of me now but I won't be using their chargers again and I will be putting a note on the charger saying you may get a PCN here. So they just lose two parking spots for very little benefit (apart from them boasting about their green credentials).

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Glasgow City, code 73 parked without paying, Kelvingrove Park electric vehicle charging bay
« on: May 27, 2025, 10:16:16 pm »
Hello,

I received a penalty charge notice from Glasgow City Council last week (PCN no. PG19019933). I was charging my electric vehicle in Kelvingrove Park (see location link below) but hadn't paid for parking. I have always thought the signage at the chargers in Glasgow is unclear - it has stock stickers of 'There is a tariff in force for using this charge place' as well as 'Parking fees may also apply' on the charger (see photo below) but there is never any further signage in the car park indicating if the EV charging spaces require an additional parking charge on top of using the charger. Has anyone experienced getting a PCN this way before? Any grounds to appeal?

I've been charging like this for nearly 2 years around Glasgow. Probably my luck has run out, but thought I'd ask anyway. Bizarre policy if it is the case - not many folk are going to pay to park AND charge....

Thanks!

Photo of charger signage:

https://imgur.com/a/NmQHAy2

Location:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.8685145,-4.2891771,3a,90y,73.73h,84.8t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sCIHM0ogKEICAgICvkq2nMA!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2Fgpms-cs-s%2FAB8u6HaWOQMWyOCDhUvtj7QHNMJflXYPJFs5s8XvBDwsh9SmofyijjUgapBkqrJJthKsWT68Xv-eEzkuixEQi4I6zurcrH7g-1q0q_ZBEugDXhLgmIESnm6_hM37unlm5SU13EVutXsv%3Dw900-h600-k-no-pi5.195002762624014-ya118.07864008548609-ro0-fo100!7i5760!8i2880?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyMS4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D

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