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Our Parking suspension, which was in my Wife's name:




The informal rep (summary)

Unfortunately (and I appreciate this doesn't help), I can't find the original informal appeal, and it is not available via Lambeth Council via their process which is unfortunate. We must have appealed directly in their portal rather than saving a copy. It seems there's no way of seeing this and from experience I doubt a request to Lambeth Council will be fruitful. In fact, they don't even send you an email notification following an informal rep.
 
Summary of what we said in our appeal (my wife did the appeal).
- We were moving out and had booked the suspension for the removal lorry
- We literally bought the car the evening before and so didn’t have time to add the number plate to the suspension, given that Lambeth Council’s response is five working days for parking-related inquiries and there is no way to add a vehicle to the suspension without directly contacting the council (you can’t do it through the portal, as I found when I booked a suspension in mid-March.)
- We knew the lorry was half an hour away and so wouldn’t need the space for a while. We parked our car in the end bay of our own suspension to a) load some bits from the house that weren’t going in the removal lorry, and b) to make sure another car didn’t park there, as earlier in the morning a car *had* parked in our suspension. I’d called the council three times to get this car removed and have evidence of this. Once the car finally moved we needed to ensure another car didn’t take up the space.
- My husband [that's me] spoke to a parking enforcement officer about the car being in the suspension for a short while and explained the situation. The parking enforcement officer reassured us it was fine to leave the car there for a bit.
-Ten minutes later a different parking enforcement officer came along and affixed a PCN while we were moving stuff into the car. They acknowledged that the situation was unfair but said they couldn’t remove the PCN.
-Our own car (registered under my husband’s name) was parked in our own suspension, and did not inhibit the removal lorry (as we had also booked the lorry). No issues resulted from our car being parked in the suspension. We have already paid you £305.17 for said suspension.
 

In my view, the response to this informal challenge does not satisfactorily answer any of these points and indeed it seems to misunderstand the nature of the challenge, as it says that ‘the works were completed’ when they were not yet started.

On that note, you can even see in the photos that our removal lorry is arriving.

Full rejection of informal reps:




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Thanks for all the above advice. Here is the further information I can provide now, and I will get the suspension application and the informal rep on later when I have access to them.

I did indeed get the car a day permit to be parked in the "K" zone.

Car Location: 51.47538136234452, -0.11408721064076315 (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4753762,-0.1140558,54m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUxNS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)




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Thanks for your reply. The car is registered to my current address, so I won't have an issue receiving the notification to owner. I agree its unfortunate and therefore at this point I wondered if it just worth paying the £80 rather than risking paying £160 or taking it further on the basis their letter makes their case they see no reason why I should have been able to park my car there.

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I paid and booked a 4-bay parking spot for the day we were moving.

I had bought a car earlier that week and had parked it in the suspension area to allow our lorry to park. I had parked this car in the suspension bay ahead of our removal lorry arriving to ensure I could move the car to provide extra space in case it was required. As I would be around I had not thought to try and add on this number plate to the suspension as Lambeth council have previously been useless.

Two parking attendants had since walked by and were out taking photos of the car and uploading them. I tried to reason with them that I had paid a forutne for this parking suspension and had placed my car there to ensure the lorry could manouvre into the bays booked, to no avail.

Now - the slight complcation - I'm new to this forum and didn't realise that appealing and making what I believed to be an easily explainable situation (and given I'd paid Lambeth Council I'd paid £300 for the privilege of a suspension for a day so I could move I figured this wouldn' be an issue). It turns out I've missed my chance on the "informal appeal".

I had the rejection today, as below, which was so absurd it makes me want to take it further rather than just bend over and pay (as I have previously done when dealing with London councils).

I understand lambeth consider this an informal appeal so there is still a chance to appeal it, but would appreciate advice to see if it is worth doing so especially given I have already used up the first avenue.


PCN: LJ34001339
Vehicle Reg: GF19 MYO
https://pcnevidence.lambeth.gov.uk/pcnonline/index.php



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