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HI Stamfordman

Hope you are keeping well. I received a letter from the council today cancelling the PCN. Thank you for all your help in this matter.

Natasha

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Hi Stamfordman

I submitted a response on my previous letter with emphasis on the minute difference, however I did keep the signage problem as it has recently been changed by the Council.

Thank you once again for all your time with this matter...

Hopefully I can return the favour one day...

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Hi Stamfordman

Thank you for your help and sorry if I did something to irritate you...


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Hi Stamfordman

I had replied to you earlier that I was aware of the timing and the restriction but I cannot recollect if my car clock showed 4:00pm or 3:59pm.

Can you please tell me why the letter is wrong.

Thanks

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Dear Stamfordman

Please find attached my PCN challenge letter.



I have received a penalty charge notice on 20th March 2025, PCN number AG48199281. The date of service of the PCN is 13th March 2025, vehicle registration number LN67 WHM.
I had spoken as well as emailed the council om 31st March 2025 about the validity of the PCN.  I received a letter from the Council on 29th April 2025 asking me to make a representation or pay the fine within the statutory timelines.
The PCN states that the vehicle failed to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (53J) between 15:00 and 16:00.  I wish to challenge this PCN on the grounds that -
•   The Enforcement Authority asserts that the said vehicle, was driven at said location at 15:59 when restricted for use by pedestrians only relies on contemporaneous photographic evidence:  Still frames taken there-from showing the said vehicle passing the applicable signs notifying motorists of the restriction.
•   The accuracy of the camera time recorder cannot be authenticated as the differential is less than a minute.
•   Also, the signage is inadequate as there seems to be a very small advance traffic sign which is covered by branches (photo attached).
 Thanks
XXXX

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Dear Stamfordman

Thank you for your time in drafting such a detailed response.

I will submit the drafted text to Barnet council as I would like to challenge this PCN by this weekend.

Would you be interested in knowing the outcome?


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Hi Stamfordman...thanks for your reply.

I have uploaded the PCN and the following correspondence below -
https://imgur.com/a/cLd7E0Z

I was aware of the timing and I thought it would be silly to go all the way around for less than a minute. I am now regretting that. I am aware that people have been going down the restricted street between those times and not received a PCN.

Thanks

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London Borough of Barnet
Section 53J - Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)
Location - Nether Street Into Essex Park N3

Hi
Before I begin, thank you to everyone who has taken their time to respond to my request and for creating this forum which us free and full of helpful advice.

I live in Courthouse Gardens (marked in a blue cross) and had to get to Wentworth avenue (marked in a blue cross) where my GP surgery is located. I have attached a map to show the two roads that have restrictions (marked in red) and the two roads (marked in black) that you would need to take to get to your location. The routes marked in black make for a much longer route to get to my destination.

I received a PCN for entering the road earlier last year in 2024 when the signs were just put up. However, after I paid the PCN, I was refunded the amount by the council.

I received another PCN on 13/03/2025 for the same offence and I had emailed the council about the fact that I had received an earlier fine and it was refunded so why had I received another one.

The council finally responded to me on 29/04/2025 asking me to pay the PCN or make representation.

The images attached show me entering the street at 15:59:18.  I have sat in my car and I did check that the car changed time slightly earlier than my phone (image attached). I was wondering if I can challenge this PCN based on the fact that it was out by seconds.

Thanks
https://imgur.com/a/cLd7E0Z


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