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@cp8759 cp8759 have just seen your post on tfl pcn

Hoping for help, my post hasn’t got traction yet

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@Hippocrates @mrmustard apologies for tagging abruptly but needed guidance on this case, hoping for direction to help or help.

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I’ve received two PCN from TFL for being in a bus lane in A13 Newham Way E6 Westbound

Date / Time: 14/11/2025 @ 14:56 (notice date 19/11)
11/11/2025 @ 20:37 (pcn notice date 17/11)

PCN received 21/11/2025

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uN9zgsxVHxVUqg51A

The location perfectly shows the sign I also saw on the days of contravention, marked out signage.

Google drive: PCN and sign screenshot

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zoKuk9DBlotoeL5GCWIwc9Yd87z87Tw8




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Hi @Hippocrates LB OF WF  finally responded with Notice of Rejection representation

Uploaded to the google drive

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Hi @Hippocrates following up on the EN. Came in on 16 June and the 28 days is nearing end.

Hope you have returned and are well.

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Hi @Hippocrates as per email see the EN and case files on the drive ^

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@Hippocrates the notice has come, I shall upload and share link with you tonight

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@Hippocrates Yes sent it word for word.



the google drive should have two separate screenshots of the pdf, added 21 May, I only cropped the address out.

Thank you

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@Hippocrates Waltham Forest have rejected the informal appeal on 16 May 2025, I will add the rejection letter on to Google Drive (link above) if required.

They have stated the PCN is correct as per CCTV footage, copied passage below. Option 1: Pay Option 2: Formal Rep and later Appeal to Adj

send the same three points from informal rep as formal rep or is there a different variation to send?


Thank you for your correspondence regarding the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) and after considering all the evidence the Authority is satisfied that the contravention occurred and that the PCN was issued correctly.
You have been issued a PCN as your vehicle has been observed by the CCTV footage at the scene to have travelled within the Bus Lane.
The bus lane is separated from the carriage way by a solid white line which runs until the end of the bus lane. Where a motorist must pass through a bus lane to make a left turn, there will be a break in the solid white line accompanied by a left turn arrow allowing motorists to enter the bus lane in order to make a left turn. This is usually located around 20 meters prior to the junction in question.
The bus lane at this location does not have these markings as it is located at the approach to a roundabout and therefore motorists are not permitted to enter this bus lane regardless of the distance travelled or time spent in the restricted area.
Any part of a vehicle located in a bus lane would result in the vehicle being issued with a PCN. Drivers have a responsibility to check for and understand signs and markings and to drive in accordance with them.
Whilst I empathise with the circumstances you have described in your correspondence; I have found no grounds to cancel the PCN. The authority are satisfied that the contravention occurred as the CCTV footage shows your vehicle travelling within the bus lane. Therefore this PCN was issued correctly and you remain liable for the charge.

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Is it worth noting few metres of the end of bus lane, not trying to utilise it but used it as an exit lane option? (20m rule) @Hippocrates

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Hello,
I received a PCN on 28 April 2025. Driving my partners car.

As I approached the end of the bus lane, I needed to switch to the left lane in order to exit at the roundabout traffic lights.I began the manoeuvre a bit early and crossed the bus lane but there was no bus behind me. Reason was solely to merge into the correct lane and not to undertake any cars or disrupt traffic flow.

I entered the bus lane two car lengths before the solid line ended, on the footage provided there are no buses in image.

Location: https://goo.gl/maps/ThZCPK5m9pdLo4ju9


GOOGLE DRIVE: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q8qu8BjQBSD0TFp4aOzyhSHQ0O89jz7N?usp=share_link


Thank you in advance.

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