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Hi experts, can I ask if the CCTV does not display me passing the signage is that valid grounds to appeal, I am thinking about the tfl bus lane cctv appeal argument

additionally the local authority has provided inaccurate photographs with the sign cleaned. photos from the same day (date stamped but not time stamped), can I request the digital copy of said photo to confirm that it was after I had made the turn.

the sign no turn was obscured

@tincombe

i have already provided evidence to LA

as you can see in response, LA state in other words they believe I did not need loading bay

@tincombe

the NTO is addressed to me, i am the RK

I pick up jobs, ad-hoc basos, self-employed via different apps to deliver/pick up goods, courier in my own vehicle

I refer to the company invoice confirming the delivery of charcoal / coal bags which need to be unloaded, and delivered then returned.

Newham Council tried to argue that I had ample time and it was not a necessity. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10ATVB_6BVODq6zac39376GlTDYvl9eco/view?usp=drivesdk

@tincombe @Incandescent

I have uploaded the NTO - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11h2xdy-fXklHxEaBEUzy4K-e8VyZ7Qlp

appreciate any advice

any opinions on this. pushing it up.

@Hippocrates given the CCTV does not display the signage (no left turn) (which was also obscured)

similar to the bus lane appeal with TFL can I prompt them to prove the sign was there and clean and not obscured with paint or graffiti spray

Pcn fr68311757

GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/o6DgSfq7jFTbQzbD7?g_st=ic

Letters: PCN and NoR

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WD4AY4lwut85QcqiS0h8aZ9En89It2Gw

I was working in the area and recognised the multiple pedestrian prohibited turns all around the area. This specific sign when approaching was obscured with black graffiti or paint. Hence why i made the specific left turn, I was unable to confirm the signs, not clear adequate signage.

 I made this clear during the appeal process, which the LA haven’t called out explicitly but provided photos and surprisingly photos taken of the sign and date stamped it as the same day the alleged contravention occurred!

By the time I received the PCN (cctv) by post and returned the sign still had some paint on it but looked like the weather rain or a scrub had reduced the obscurity.

I want to take this forward as the evidence provided by the local authority, I want to challenge it given the time stamp isn’t on the photo provided so it could have been cleaned by staff and photo taken on the same day later on the day. Or more seriously, it isn’t authentic, I’d like the digital copy to check the metadata location and time of the photo was taken?

Hi checking if anyone can provide guidance as the council (local authority) has referred to previous tribunal cases:

2250374502 - however the appellant did not make a case of the signage

2250472997 ( FR65871744) - however appellant does not make a case of any issues

Both adjudicators state the signage is clear however as seen on GSW, there are no advance signs on the main road before turning, as a driver you should make the turn while clear, I would have only seen the sign during half turn, again there were pedestrians which I was watching and watching oncoming road potential traffic. If I compare to other adequate signage I would refer to authorities who put up signage on the main road and on the side road turning point itself. is this enough?