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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 08, 2025, 04:29:57 pm »
These 2 comments seem slightly at odds:
I have finally managed to convince the Police that this is in fact a crime, and not a civil matter, so I have been issued a crime reference number.
Since issuing the crime reference number 2 days ago, have they once again changed their stance? (apologies if already covered)
Yes, I have been issued a crime reference number, so the matter was at least logged as a potential criminal offence.

However, when I called today to update the log with new information about Mr Khoshal Ebrahim’s legal position, the call handler I spoke to insisted again that it was “a civil matter.” He said it could take up to a month before anyone investigates, and he relied entirely on the existence of a “tort notice” despite not even having seen it. He also told me that in his 15 years of policing, this would be treated as civil.

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 08, 2025, 04:10:38 pm »
Haha yes, that was me doing the instructing, not LME suddenly having a change of heart and hiring a solicitor for me.

Current status
- LME has frozen storage costs but still want £575 to get my vehicle back.
- PPS denies having anything to do with the towing of vehicle, saying its down to landlord of property who issued tort notice, (yet LME wants payment for PPS PCNs)
- Police treating this as a civil matter despite repeated attempts of convincing them otherwise.

I have also just discovered that another resident at the same Thames City location had their vehicle clamped and towed two months ago. I’m not yet certain whether it was the same contractor, but the resident paid £3,000 to recover their car. They had no CCJs, no court action, and no warrants against them. This strongly suggests that what happened to me is not an isolated incident, and that similar unlawful conduct may have occurred before.

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 08, 2025, 02:18:06 pm »
I replied to LME Services using what you said b789 and here is their reply:

Dear Mr

Conversion is when the involuntary bailee uses the goods for their own use, this is clearly not the case.
We have also notified the Police of its removal and the reason why.

The offer still stands as we are closing this week for the holidays.

To arrange release of your goods, please call: 0208 248 0063

I have now instructed Jackson Yamba to initiate proceedings.

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 08, 2025, 12:02:30 pm »
Update, (good news) LME have replied to my email with this reponse:

Thank you for your email in regards to your goods being removed.
Thames City have an obligation to keep that access road clear as there is a high volume of heavy goods vehicles traffic from neighbouring locations, which is why they operate a no parking policy on that access road.
By leaving your goods there you are causing distress and disruption to the lawful use of the land, the tort notice issued to your goods does clearly state that you must permanently remove your goods from the land.
Since then you have continued to leave your goods on the land without permission.
The involuntary bailee is entitled to secure goods that have incurred charges, i.e a removal truck.
No goods are exempt from TIGA 1977
TIGA 1977 provides lawful authority to remove goods. 

In the spirit of Christmas as we are closing down for the holiday season soon, we will only charge you the Keyless Removal Truck Fee.

Amount: £575.00

Is the best option now to pay under protest and then sue?


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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 07, 2025, 07:05:55 pm »
That makes a lot of sense, and I appreciate the explanation. If LME were acting purely on instructions from the landowner and not PPS, then PPS themselves might try to argue they are not responsible. However, because LME’s demand includes the 29 PPS-issued PCNs, it strongly suggests PPS are involved in or connected to this enforcement, which brings BPA compliance issues firmly into play.

If the landowner had instructed LME independently, I would expect the demand to relate solely to trespass/nuisance or alleged abandonment, not to 29 PPS parking invoices with itemised amounts copied directly from PPS’s own PCNs.

This suggests PPS are either complicit or are at least allowing their accredited status to be used to justify what looks like an unlawful workaround of PoFA.

If PPS did not authorise this, then LME appear to be enforcing PPS’s charges without authority, which is a separate and very serious issue for BPA and DVLA.

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 07, 2025, 03:55:34 pm »
Here is a link to a PCN and NtK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bXxU-meS8OgFfVVHvRJLp-gcfCDZ9iFS/view?usp=sharing

Timeline of events on the basis of creating a clear picture:
5 December 2025 18:10
I phoned the number on the “Warning of Immobilisation” notice after discovering my vehicle had been clamped.
I asked the enforcement agent why my vehicle had been clamped; he replied that my car was “getting towed.”

Shortly after, I went to the vehicle, sat inside it, and called 999, explaining that my car was being clamped and removed on private land without lawful authority and that this was unlawful under s.54 POFA.
The call handler told me it was a civil matter and that police officers would not be attending, despite my repeated attempts to explain the criminal offence.

Approximately 18:40
The enforcement agent, Mr K. Ebrahim, arrived and demanded that I exit the vehicle, stating that he had “seized” it.
I told him the clamping and towing were unlawful. He insisted he could proceed and said he was calling the police.

Around 5 minutes later
Police officers arrived extremely quickly, which was surprising given that the force had just told me they would not attend.
The officers then explained that they had been dispatched urgently because the enforcement agent had reported that objects were being thrown at him (a complete fabrication), which they treated as a violent incident requiring immediate response.
The enforcement agent showed officers: The June “7-day tort notice”, and The “Notice That Goods Have Been Secured / Notice of Intention to Sell.”
I explained that the “7-day tort notice” issued in June 2025 was a notice relating to abandoned vehicles, not a lawful authority for clamping or towing. I pointed out that the vehicle could not possibly be considered “abandoned” because:
I had driven it to the location that same day, and I was physically present inside the vehicle at the scene when they attempted to tow it.

Despite this, the officers continued to treat the June notice as if it authorised the December clamp and tow.
The officers appeared to treat these documents as if they were legally equivalent to a warrant or statutory authority.
They repeatedly told me this was a civil matter, yet simultaneously threatened to arrest me for: Breach of the peace, or
Intentionally obstructing a “lawful enforcement agent if I did not leave my vehicle.”
I repeatedly explained that private clamping and towing without lawful authority is a criminal offence under s.54 PoFA, but the officers did not accept this.

I asked the enforcement agent where my vehicle was being taken.
He refused to tell me, stating I would only be given the location after payment of the demanded £5,325.

Police officers stayed on scene to ensure I did not re-enter the vehicle or prevent its removal. The vehicle was then loaded onto a recovery truck and towed away. I was left without any paperwork identifying where the vehicle had been taken. Time of tow: 19:35

I can confirm there is no warrant of control from any statutory authority, and I have no CCJ or court claims for the PCNs associated with PPS.

I hope this provides clarification.

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 06, 2025, 10:40:28 pm »
I have finally managed to convince the Police that this is in fact a crime, and not a civil matter, so I have been issued a crime reference number. I have also reported the crime using MET police's online report a crime form, stating the facts.

I have made a complaint to the MET Police PSD for the officers' failure to record my matter as a crime, also that they stated it was a civil matter yet threatened to arrest me for breach of peace if I did not exit my vehicle, the enforcement officer also showed the police a print out of Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007, Schedule 12 Paragraph 68: seen here: https://ibb.co/QSCG1KC to threaten me with arrest if I did not leave the vehicle or intervened with the towing process.

I have also involved my MP, sending them an email, writing about what you said. I have also sent relevant complaints to the DVLA and BPA.

Unfortunately, after double checking my insurance I am not covered for legal protection, therefore I will have to pay out of my own pocket for legal expenses.

I have emailed LME Services Ltd, PPS, and Thames City management to ask the whereabouts of the vehicle and legal basis, etc, as you said. I'm planning to send letters tomorrow to ensure delivery.

As I use my vehicle on a daily basis and at this time of year, I really do need my vehicle back, if I go the urgent injunction route, how long would it be expected for this process to take? Or if I choose to pay under protest and then sue, wouldn't it be potentially months until I can receive the funds back? And would my case have a high likelihood of winning and receiving the funds? I know these are questions which may be difficult to answer without knowing the whole facts. I have not spoken to LME or PPS by phone yet. Seeking recommendations for legal advice and or solicitors.

Picture at the scene of towing: https://ibb.co/pvJvZnVX

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 06, 2025, 01:13:07 pm »
Unfortunately my vehicle is not financed, and I have no insurance to cover legal fees so I'll have to pay any legal expenses myself, I previously rented a apartment at the building but have since moved out some months ago. The enforcement agent failed to give me a original copy of the tort notice in June 2025 and instead sent me this picture when I asked: https://ibb.co/QvNKLQ7r
His words were: you can zoom in to read it. They have also refused to tell me where the car was towed to.

Clearer picture of notice that goods have been seized: https://ibb.co/MxT4bdTp

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Private parking tickets / Re: CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 05, 2025, 09:52:48 pm »
It is a Criminal offence under section 54 of pofa protection of freedoms act 2012 for private parking companies to clamp and or tow vehicles. Yet they have done so, I note the ongoing dispute in relation to the parking invoices that they have given me, yet my vehicle was clearly not abandoned as I drove it and parked it there today, yet the police keeps stating this is a civil matter and won't allow me to report it as a crime when it is clearly criminal.

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Private parking tickets / CAR TOWED on private land 7 DAY TORT NOTICE
« on: December 05, 2025, 08:02:48 pm »
Background: I have 29 PCNs from PPS private parking company - all at the same location (where I live)  and on 3 July 2025 I was served a 7 DAY TORT NOTICE attached to my vehicle windscreen.  Since then I have not parked there, but today on 5 December 2025 I regretfully parked at the location and my vehicle was clamped, Police came and it was a whole scene.. and now my vehicle has been towed. They are now asking for £5325.00 consisting of £575.00 removal fee, £4750 car parking charge consisting of 29 fines which have multiplied in costs (My plan was to wait for LOC to arrive for PCNs and argue). Storage fee of £40 a day and after 90 days my vehicle will be sold with them keeping the funds. What should I do? I argued that my vehicle was not abandoned but I was helpless with the police supporting the bailiffs. Advice needed! Solicitors need to be instructed? 

I was parked on private land - Carnation Way - GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4tWsrwWJV8nvLwDH8

https://ibb.co/Y4t4Qww1 - Sign at location
https://ibb.co/C3nSgXTW - NOTICE THAT GOODS HAVE BEEN SECURED 05/12/2025
https://ibb.co/whkssqD6 - 7 DAY TORT NOTICE 03/07/2025
https://ibb.co/Xr0rqLcC - Warning of immobilisation (on windscreen when vehicle was clamped)

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After viewing the GSV once again, I think I may have caught something of contention? On rejection letter it states: Inside a Controlled Zone, the information may be on Controlled Zone signs instead. Controlled Zone signs are like border-crossing signs: you will have passed one as you entered the zone. However, there is only a sign that the controlled zone ends, the sign where the controlled zone begins, is not the route that I took to park on the road, here is the GSV of the sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/LVWrLDuYoiJmxDS19
There are bollards blocking vehicles from going straight from the CPZ start to the CPZ end, I have illustrated what I mean here: https://ibb.co/jjpNWdx
Yellow is the route I took to park, CPZ sign start indicated in Purple and where I parked in green, I note that there is no sign for CPZ start anywhere along the yellow boundary from the exit to where I was parked.

Therefore, from driving through the road to where the vehicle is parked, there is only a sign for controlled zone ends, but at no where do I see a sign for controlled zone.

Is this a feasible argument?

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Hi all, looking for some advice if I should just pay these fines or risk taking it to the tribunal as Lambeth council have rejected my representation.

The driver unknowingly parked on a single yellow for two days consecutively (someone removed the sticker on windscreen on the first day so no knowledge of the first fine) The lines are very faded and were covered with construction dust as there is a big building site right next to where the vehicle was parked.

Link to pcn and pictures: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cosbhkGECLerzpYdSfzKiTzT1fUxQi7w?usp=sharing

GSV: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oFz3zZdqEawivKyQA

Thank you!

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I know I'm an idiot.. I forgot all about this letter and only just remembered about it now when I was sorting through some letters! I believe I only have left until midnight to complete the Small Claims Directions Questionnaire?

https://ibb.co/Pv9rRmbq
https://ibb.co/v6cqZ4Km

Thanks for your help!!

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