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So just to clarify - I should theoretically now fill in the NIP saying I was the driver
Not theoretically, you have to name the driver.  Failing to do so will see a separate charge carrying 6 points...

...and see what they come back with - when they do, is it at that point that I should opt for a court hearing because I will automatically become a "totter" - or should I take the penalty and THEN go to court AFTER?
If they're awake then they should progress the matter straight to the court route for which you will need to attend to submit the EH plea.

I understand better now - thank you for your very detailed and patient explanation. I am most grateful.

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What was the date of the offence that resulted in the SAC in 2022? Was it more or less than 3 years before the date of the current offence?

Assuming that they were within 3 years, then you should not be offered a course for this offence.

If you are offered a Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, the "conditional" part of the offer is that it is conditional on you not being liable to tot up - so if you go through the motions of "accepting" the offer, it will be voided when they check. Whether you "should" do that or not would seem to depend on what advantage (or disadvantage) you are seeking to gain by doing so.

I need to check on the dates - but even though the letter says I might be offered the course - I doubt it given the offences that took place after!

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Thank you very much for your advice.

So just to clarify - I should theoretically now fill in the NIP saying I was the driver and see what they come back with - when they do, is it at that point that I should opt for a court hearing because I will automatically become a "totter" - or should I take the penalty and THEN go to court AFTER?

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Hi All

With 9 points on my licence already - one in March '23 - and then two back to back last year ('24) in March (1 day apart) on the same stretch of road all around 44mph in a 40 zone as well as a speed awareness course already taken in 2022! I now have another NIP - the offence was 51 in a 40.

As before with all other incidents the last one took place fairly early in the morning (430am) on an empty dual carriageway - I suspect the time of day and the type of road probably make no difference.

The speed limit sign seems like it was clearly marked as being 40 on both sides of the part of the road I was on! Weather was fine. So probably don't have an excuse with either of those.

There was no specific "emergency situations".

All details on the NIP are correct. The camera calibration details seem to be in order too.

The camera was a fixed camera in the road.

I have a job that is not easy to get to - its about 15 miles from where I live - no other easy way there other than by road (car) and I am the only bread winner in the house - my husband having had a stroke 3 years ago.

I really do try to watch my speed and it is very frustrating this keep happening - I appreciate that too is no excuse.

Should I go to court and claim "hardship" or is there something else I should do?

Can't really afford a lawyer to represent me. 

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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