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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 27, 2025, 09:57:13 pm »
@Hippocrates - I am in process of completing appeal of PCN to Harrow council, and on last page it says “if your representation is accepted or the notice was given in error, it will be cancelled and you will not have to pay.  If we reject your representation you will have to pay the full fee (the amount will not be discounted” WHAT! I thought if you appealed within the 14 days to the council, and they rejected the appeal - you still had had the option to pay the £80 because the PCN was on hold whilst the appeal was being looked at! I now don’t know what to do and am left thinking “should I just pay the £80”!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 27, 2025, 09:04:45 pm »
Thanks @Hippocrates. I will let you know what happens.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 27, 2025, 07:59:46 pm »
Ok - Thanks Grant for this.  I have read that the council usually reject them all at the initial appeal and hope people just pay up! I will put it in and see what happens. I am not feeling very hopeful though.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 27, 2025, 04:08:07 pm »
Hippocrates is the expert but I have to appeal to Harrow Council by tomorrow as am out the country after that, so I unfortunately, cannot wait until then. 

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 26, 2025, 07:43:07 pm »
Hi Dan and Hippocrates
I have looked at the images and CCTV footage online.  The only footage is from the car entering the bus gate and you cannot see what is on the two signs either side of it.  I have typed out the following draft and attached it - this is what I am thinking of sending to Harrow Council to appeal the PCN. I would be interested in your thoughts please? Thanks. Dawn

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 24, 2025, 04:26:30 pm »
Hi Dan
Sorry to hear they got you too.  I am going to look at the tribunal page and see what I can gleam from there and try to put a case for my appeal to Harrow council.  I will post once I have read it all.  Hippocrates advice is useful so thanks too. 

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 23, 2025, 07:33:47 pm »
Really?  So no one has been successful in the first stage and has either paid or gone to tribunal?  If this is the case - I will still appeal to delay the payment of it, and if unsuccessful as it sounds I 100% will be; I then either pay the £80 or got tribunal and risk having to pay £160.  Is that correct? Thanks.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 22, 2025, 09:43:38 am »
Thanks - but this case is a tribunal.  I  at the stage of having recently received the PCN, so now have the choice to pay the £80 or appeal directly to Harrow council.  They have not rejected anything yet.  So I am needing help to appeal directly to them before the 14 days are up for me to pay the reduced rate of £80.   You also sent a link relevant to new posts - but I have posted the PCN image and am not sure what else I am meant to update.  Thanks.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 21, 2025, 05:13:06 pm »
Thanks - only one I can find is from January 2025 and they appear to have gone to the ombudsman, but found nothing recent.  I need help in knowing what to actually put down on the appeal to Harrow council that might actually work.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Help please - to appeal PCN Cambrose avenue bus lane.
« on: April 21, 2025, 02:37:03 pm »
Hi. I drove home from Wembley and received a PCN for using "Bus lane" in Cambrose avenue.  I remember this section of road as it was really confusing (never driven here before). The road is two way traffic. I noticed that I was on top of a "give way" section with a concrete middle of the road divider between me and the other side, which I thought a bit strange as there was no reason I could see to give way to anything. On receiving the PCN, I have googled the street, and noted there is a road sign right on top of the entry to this section saying bus lane - but there is no prior warning before this, no normal road markings identifying it as a bus lane either. You are in it by the time you realise it and the only way to exit is to stop and reverse out - which is dangerous.  The sign is also poorly lit and difficult to see in the dark.  I want to appeal this PCN, and wondered if you are able to help me to do this please. I am not confident as reading up about this particular section - the council have made £1.3 million in fines, and usually reject appeals.  Thanks in advance. Dawn

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