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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

« on: May 06, 2025, 10:03:39 am »

Hi there,

Unfortunately Redbridge rejected my appeal:

https://ibb.co/zhkXcSK0
https://ibb.co/Wpjv0ybS

Any thoughts on my next steps?

Many thanks.

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

« on: April 22, 2025, 10:58:34 pm »

Hi again @Hippocrates and all - I have submitted my formal representations via the online portal using the same representations shown in my previous message. This was without any reference to the tree blocking the sign so the focus remained on the term time sign.

I will update again when I hear back from the council, many thanks!

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

« on: April 22, 2025, 10:21:58 pm »

Hi @Hippocrates - Thanks so much for the comparative case study! Should I just use the same representation wording as shown below? Should I make any reference to the trees blocking the sign?

Quote

Dear Redbridge

Ref: PCN VRM

I make this formal representation:

The contravention did not occur as the sign referring to term time is proscribed. As per school parking restrictions, how is a driver expected to know the times of any term time in advance?

Please cancel the PCN therefore.

Yours,

Registered keeper

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

« on: April 22, 2025, 11:03:33 am »

Thanks for all the replies!

@stamfordman it's a shame the video isn't longer. My friend realised that we shouldn't go down that road but it was too late by the time he told me to stop.

@John U.K. I am trying to get a clearer picture but it looks like it's something to do with term time only.

@H C Andersen it was a genuine oversight as I drove down the road looking for a road to turn into. I'm not familiar with the surrounding roads, so I didn't even see the other sign otherwise I wouldn't have driven down that road. As soon as my friend realised, he alerted me to stop but as you can see from the video it was too late, and the U-turn was too late. What does LATOR stand for?

Should I appeal to say the sign is blocked by the trees and does not pass the LATOR test of adequacy?

Many thanks 🙏

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

« on: April 21, 2025, 10:03:25 pm »

Hi there, I can't believe it but I received another PCN for the same offence in two different places over the space of 4 days.

This feels like a long shot but do I have a case to appeal? I went back to the location, and there is another sign as you approach the road but you definitely can't see the main sign on the road as you turn in due to the trees, which isn't really acceptable.

What's even more frustrating is that I immediately did a U-turn after I entered the road but it was too late (see video below showing that I stopped).

~~Also when I log into the council website, the video evidence doesn't play and just buffers - Is that a case in itself for suggesting the PCN should be cancelled?~~

Update is the video plays fine via my laptop browser.

PCN:

https://ibb.co/d4nSkZxt
https://ibb.co/VWdny6fr

Online evidence images via the council website:

https://ibb.co/TZsbqtd
https://ibb.co/bgLfvrr6

Online evidence video on the council website:

https://streamable.com/e6ywrw

Location images taken by me:

https://ibb.co/sdg6SfxX
https://ibb.co/Xx97h7HK
https://ibb.co/4nhdHnft
https://ibb.co/d4GmMkLb

Location video taken by me

https://streamable.com/rg9z0c

To recap:

- The sign on the road I turned into is fully blocked by the trees.
- I did a U-turn immediately but it was evidently too late (see council evidence video showing that I stopped).
~~- The video evidence won't play via the council website.~~
- I have until tomorrow to lodge my appeal.

Many thanks 🙏

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)

« on: April 16, 2025, 05:54:15 pm »

@stanmfordman - This sign is located on the left hand sign I'd say about 20m before the turn, definitely not the clearest to see when you're driving!

https://ibb.co/Q7S1KmwV

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)

« on: April 16, 2025, 08:39:19 am »

Ah thanks for explaining! I'm just being (overly) cautious!

Here are the three images from the council website and sharing the video again:

https://ibb.co/n8tmV0vG
https://ibb.co/5gsb3mDX
https://ibb.co/ZpmBDFBB

Video
https://streamable.com/8u5q5l

Many thanks :)

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)

« on: April 15, 2025, 11:50:59 pm »

Thanks so much for the quick reply!

Does this help even though I stopped it before the number plate is shown?

https://streamable.com/8u5q5l

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)

« on: April 15, 2025, 11:01:23 pm »

Hi there! I recently received the PCN for: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement). Do I stand any chance with an appeal?

PCN:

https://ibb.co/4nhNfDmf
https://ibb.co/SX4nP2Mc
https://ibb.co/N2szD4yc
https://ibb.co/WNHM8pvL
https://ibb.co/9HW4kDYF

Images from council online evidence showing the signs:

https://ibb.co/VcvyKqDf
https://ibb.co/7tfqyTsk
https://ibb.co/QvYqTB2j

I have been back to the location and now see a small sign on the left side of the road that shows there is a restriction between those hours, but it's not very obvious when driving. When you approach the turn itself from The Ridgeway into Bethune Avenue, it's also a very tight angle to see the signs. What's also interesting is that you'll see from the pictures below that they've turned the signs out of the hours when you can get a ticket.

Please see attached some pictures from the location:

https://ibb.co/Q7F946GZ
https://ibb.co/JFynJML4
https://ibb.co/zMSFwFZ
https://ibb.co/5xBr9n07
https://ibb.co/Q7S1KmwV
https://ibb.co/0Vh2Qm4q

Video from location:

https://streamable.com/jf50c5

Apologies I only have until this Friday to appeal.

Many thanks for your advice!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)

Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)

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