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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, PCN Code 27 - Parked adjacent to a dropped footway
« on: May 28, 2025, 03:36:13 pm »
I would just like to thank everyone for their input to this, specifically the wording from HC Anderson.  I've just received notification that they have cancelled the PCN on the basis of CEO Error.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, PCN Code 27 - Parked adjacent to a dropped footway
« on: April 10, 2025, 12:30:53 am »
Quote from: stamfordman on April 09, 2025, 10:54:31 pm
An informal challenge is first - I can draft a simple one for you as there isn't much to say.

But who is the registered keeper of the van?

My business is the registered keeper, and I'm the sole director.  I would very much appreciate your draft.

Quote from: Incandescent on April 09, 2025, 11:01:19 pm
For informal challenges against a PCN, there are no fixed periods for a reply, unlike those for replying to reps against a Notice to Owner, which is 56 days in the Traffic Management Act 2004.

So it is within Haverings interest not to reply within the timeframe to get the higher rate? 

As a layman, this forces individuals to just to pay the fine (which may be unjust) for fear of paying the full rate, which has recently been increased.

Quote from: H C Andersen on April 09, 2025, 11:13:39 pm
It is in the interests of the authority and the vehicle owner to resolve any dispute at the earliest possible stage.

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The Secretary of State suggests that authorities should respond within 14 days.[to challenges].

Very interesting, and I really appreciate your input.  Would the suggestion by the secretary of state help?  Havering will just claim workload?

Why are Havering allowed to remove this discount, when it has been standard across all boroughs for years?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, PCN Code 27 - Parked adjacent to a dropped footway
« on: April 09, 2025, 10:43:20 pm »
My back wheels were on the immediate edge of the bay outside 172.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, PCN Code 27 - Parked adjacent to a dropped footway
« on: April 09, 2025, 10:04:52 pm »
Thanks for looking in to this.

Yes I was parked within a residents bay outside of the enforcement times.

Are the council obliged to respond in a certain timeframe?  If I appeal and they respond in 7 days, am I still entitled to the discount as thats within 14?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / LB Havering, PCN Code 27 - Parked adjacent to a dropped footway
« on: April 09, 2025, 06:35:53 pm »
Good evening,

I have today received a PCN for parking slightly across a dropped kerb.  Granted I did it, but I would like to question the validity of the PCN wording.  "Any challenge made is against the full charge and the 14 day discount will not be offered".  Previously, the discount clock stopped when an informal challenge was made.  If upheld, I was still able to pay the reduced rate.

The other query is that other vehicles did exactly the same thing and were not ticketed.

PCN and my images:
https://imgur.com/a/857Ta07

GSV:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1LYkG9guEF4S2FNFA

The council images aren't online yet.

Do I have any grounds for appeal, or should I just pay it at the reduced rate?

Thanks.

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