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That sounds interesting, would be good to observe, thanks.

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Can anyone add anything further? Or is that one sentence pretty much it?

Thanks all.

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I think that is accurate. They failed to address my point about the signs, merely stating "there are multiple clear traffic signs....at this location". They did not mention the evidence I submitted to the contrary.

They did not comment on my point about timing.

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Hey guys, time is up today!

Can you please let me know what I should write to the tribunal?

thanks


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As requested, here is the latest letter.

https://cdn.imgpile.com/p/iGENzxJ#VlcRVUG

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Just testing you are all awake.....


Apologies, here is the correct link for the rejection notice (not received)

https://cdn.imgpile.com/p/t666CPz

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Here is the timeline so far:

03.07.2025 PCN issued to lease company for alleged contravention 07.06.2025

I then received a PCN around September 2025 and lodged an appeal.

My appeal was:

I wish to appeal this PCN on the following grounds:

1. I stopped to allow a vehicle to pull out of the side road. I was not stopped due to the prescence of staionary vehicles. This is not an offence

2. The box illegally extends to the far side of a T junction

3. There were no signs to indicate the 31j no stopping restriction you have accused me of and the highway code makes no mention of not stopping in a yellow box. Please confirm how iIwas supposed to know the existance of contravention code 31j prior to the offence?


I received no reply.

On 12.12.2025 I received a charge certificate. On the same day, I emailed Havering saying:

Dear sir or madam,
 
I have received a charge certificate for PCN HG6232941A despite the fact I have already appealed it and received no response. Please see the email below. I therefore request that you cancel the charge certificate and respond to my appeal.
 
Thank you and kind regards.
 


on 22.01.2026 I recieved the following email:

Good afternoon.

Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay in responding. We are currently experiencing a high volume of emails.

A letter of rejection was sent on the 10/11/2025 I have attached a copy of this letter.

Please be advised, as a Charge Certificate has been issued you are no longer able to make representation against the case as under the Traffic Management Act 2004, service of a Charge Certificate removes the right to make representations against the case. Please wait for an Order for Recovery which will enable you to make a Witness Statement  against the case on one of the following 3 grounds only.
1. You did not receive the Penalty Charge Notice/Notice to Owner / Enforcement Notice.
2. You made representation against the issue of the Penalty Charge to the local Authority within 28 days but you did not receive a response (Notice of Rejection).
3. You appealed to the Parking & Traffic Appeals Service against the local Authority’s decision to reject your representation within 28 days, but you received no response to your appeal.
Please wait for the Order for Recovery to be served. This is the only option available to you outside of payment of the current outstanding balance of (check balance) for each Penalty Charge Notice. This is a Quasi-Judicial process as laid out in the Traffic Management Act 2004 that must be followed by both the London Borough of Havering and the appellant.
Should a Witness Statement be accepted, the Charge Certificate surcharge will be removed and you will be able to either make formal representation or pay at the  full charge.
Not received PCN -
Not received NTO -

Regards
Darren Penney Process and Debt Recovery Officer
London Borough of Havering | Highways, Traffic & Parking
Town Hall, Main Road, Romford RM1 3BB

Help us improve Traffic & Parking Services in Havering by taking part in our Customer Satisfaction survey at https://consultation.havering.gov.uk/parking/711361be/




With the attached letter of rejection:

https://cdn.imgpile.com/p/t666CPz

So gang, do I need to wait for Order for Recovery now?

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Rejection letter received today.

Can you assist with the text for the appeal to the London Tribunals please?

https://cdn.imgpile.com/p/b5qswb2

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In your experience, do they always proceed to legal?

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Hey all and happy new year.

Just checking, received a Notice of Intended Legal Action letter today. Just ignore right?

Do they always go to the LoC stage?

Thanks again.

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Do you want me to upload any supporting evidence?

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So, tick A and add this text:

Dear Havering

I require you to consider my initial challenge as formal representations against the EN. In addition, the video does not support the alleged contravention as there is no evidence of any upright signage allegedly passed and the signage as seen is not fit for purpose. Please cancel therefore.

Yours


Thanks, I just want to make sure I get this 100%

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Ah, I thought I had to send by paper at this stage. So, which option do I choose?

Representation Reason
A       -  The alleged Contravention did not occur
B    I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of contravention
        -  I had sold the vehicle before that date
        -  I had bought the vehicle after that date
        -  I have never owned that vehicle
C       -  The vehicle was taken without my consent
D       -  We are a hire firm and have supplied details
E       -  The Penalty Charge exceeds the relevant amount
F       -  There has been a procedural impropriety by the Enforcement Authority
G       -  The traffic order contravened is invalid
H       -  The Notice should not have been served because the Penalty Charge had already been paid
I       -  Other

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