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Thank you so much again Ivan! You completely relieved me of the stress of appealing, then most probably losing, as well as the money saved. And all executed with extreme precision and professionalism!! Thank you

Definitely! I would be so grateful. And yep, I’ll send you the PDF confirmation of the appeal they sent me which includes the two links whenever convenient.

Rejection received, seems like a cookie-cutter response because they're just mentioning all the routes including Bonfield Road which I never even knew of before. Here is the map of what I described in green, the red marker shows the junction they are talking of

They are not in the folder sorry, I drew them while writing the appeal, so I've PM'd you a link to both the files. If you could kindly add them into there, I've modified the appeal this way to accomodate:Dear SirsPCN x VRM xI make these representations on the following grounds:<<Not sure what to put here, as specifically I will be clicking the 'I wish to challenge my PCN for another reason' option in the appeal form?>>Fig.1 is Lewisham council's first photographic evidence in their PCN. It is edited it to display a green rectangle to show exactly where the driver was parked stationary as the driver had reason to leave the car, and a red line indicating where the first frame of the Lewisham council's video footage begins. The two red circles indicate the two lamposts displaying the signage specific to this case.The driver parked here after turning into Lewis Grove from Lee High Road, and the only signage until then was a warning of a Bus, Cycle and Taxi lane 240 yards ahead. The next sign, infront of the parked position in fig.1 and in the google street view image (fig.2) states the lane is now 160 yards ahead, but the lane marking is now solid white (marked in red).As the solid lane marking ends at the junction with Mercia Grove, and in the driver's perspective the assumed final warning sign of the impeeding restriction is also in clear view, one naturally assumes the safest thing to do is to turn back on oneself toward Lee High Road. At this point, it is impossible to assume that the other lane is also restricted.During the turn, in which the space in Mercia Grove as well as the broken lane markings are utilised, the signage is only visible once the driver is face on having completed the turn. Using the council's own video footage in the earliest stage of the recording (red line, fig.1) it is clear to see the driver is too close to the signage to have actually had ample time to react to them. This can be simplified by asking why the council's cameras do not begin recording at a reasonable distance from the signage as to effectively rule out this situation from occurring. Images GSV 1,2,3, and 4 are depicting the entire route, and only in the last one does the driver have a chance to view the signs. Please note these are angles taken from Google street view, and were not the exact angles of the driver, who also had to navigate this road at ~1am, with no signs of other traffic as to have obtained any forewarning of any restriction on the adjacent lane. The images can be found here * link *.

I can send this, and attach my own photos referred to as fig 1 and 2?Dear SirsPCN x VRM xI make these representations on the following grounds:<<Not sure what to put here, as specifically I will be clicking the 'I wish to challenge my PCN for another reason' option in the appeal form?>>Fig.1 is Lewisham council's first photographic evidence in their PCN. It is edited it to display a green rectangle to show exactly where the driver was parked stationary as the driver had reason to leave the car, and a red line indicating where the first frame of the Lewisham council's video footage begins. The two red circles indicate the two lamposts displaying the signage specific to this case. The driver parked here after turning into Lewis Grove from Lee High Road, and the only signage until then was a warning of a Bus, Cycle and Taxi lane 240 yards ahead. The next sign, infront of the parked position in fig.1 and in the google street view image (fig.2) states the lane is now 160 yards ahead, but the lane marking is now solid white (marked in red).As the solid lane marking ends at the junction with Mercia Grove, and in the driver's perspective the assumed final warning sign of the impeeding restriction is also in clear view, one naturally assumes the safest thing to do is to turn back on oneself toward Lee High Road. At this point, it is impossible to assume that the other lane is also restricted. During the turn, in which the space in Mercia Grove as well as the broken lane markings are utilised, the signage is only visible once the driver is face on having completed the turn. Using the council's own video footage in the earliest stage of the recording (red line, fig.1) it is clear to see the driver is too close to the signage to have actually had ample time to react to them. This can be simplified by asking why the council's cameras do not begin recording at a reasonable distance from the signage as to effectively rule out this situation from occurring. Images GSV 1,2,3, and 4 can be found here * link * depicting the entire route, and only in the last one does the driver have a chance to view the signs. Please note these are angles taken from Google street view, and were not the exact angles of the driver, who also had to navigate this road at ~1am, with no signs of other traffic as to have obtained any forewarning of any restriction on the adjacent lane.

Dear SirsPCN x VRM xI make these representations on the following grounds:<<Not sure what to put here, as specifically I will be clicking the 'I wish to challenge my PCN for another reason' option in the appeal form?>>Edit: deleted until tomorrow

Quote from: cp8759 on 31 Aug, 2023 00:18I might have hatched a plan, can you please put all the photos you've got in a google drive or dropbox folder and post a link on here?I made a tidied up collection and PM'd you for now, as my DP account shows my full name etc. I made a zip of the folder for the purpose of the thread: https://we.tl/t-JM6N3ozsTQIf any issues let me know, I'll make a new DP account or something

Thanks for the reply. So you would deem this not worth appealing? Even if one could argue the first frame of the video shows the car, at maximum, 5 or so metres past the signs? After doing a 3-point-turn, how would one be expected so see and then even react to it correctly?

Yep sorry, point #2 explains my intent to turn. I was parked up there in the lay-by. If I had turned there, it would have been fine. However, I went up the road and turned, and I can't remember exactly where I did this? I just know what I did and why, but not the exact positioning/coordinates?

Quote from: Incandescent on 29 Aug, 2023 21:54So, U-turning as you did, you never actually passed the two signs in your daylight photo.It seems I didn't. The off-side sign is next to the second green shop away from the blue shop. Near side is even further away than thatHere are all remaining pages of the PCN:

Thanks, edited and added

Hi all, basically the same situation as here http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=102692I have gone back to the location to take my own pictures at night. https://goo.gl/maps/kNJ5EsfuQMk1ztJf8#1Their correspondence Their videohttps://streamable.com/ba4so0#2Depicting from a daytime google streets screenshot, my intent to do a U-turn after parking here (infront of the white van)#3An up to date picture taken at night, the 'express nails' shop is circled in green, because it seems that is where the first photo is taken of my car.