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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: February 10, 2026, 12:00:47 am »
Bumping this thread

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: February 02, 2026, 05:00:01 pm »
Rejection letter as requested [LINK]

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: February 02, 2026, 04:39:40 pm »
Hi all, I've had the informal challenge rejected with absolutely no reference to the content of the appeal. What is the suggested path forward?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 12, 2025, 06:01:51 pm »
Updated version:


I’m sincerely sorry that my parking has caused concern. I always try to park properly and within the rules, and it was not my intention to cause any issue.

When I parked the night before, the end of the bay was really difficult to judge because the road was covered by standing water and leaves. A lot of it cleared up by the next morning when the PCN photos were taken, but even in those you can see that some road markings were still obscured by standing water. For example, in the picture with the white scooter, the kerb-side yellow line is submerged for several feet behind the vehicle. I hope this reflects how difficult it was to see the road markings and bay at the time of parking (which was a rainy night when even more of the road was covered).

I also noticed that the PCN appears to have been issued immediately, with no observation time recorded. As set out in Brent’s published parking policy, a CEO is normally expected to allow a minimum observation period in situations where a statutory exemption, such as loading, might apply. With no observation time recorded, it appears that this assessment may not have been carried out.

Given the very poor visibility of the bay markings at the time I parked, and the lack of any recorded observation to confirm that no exemption applied, I would be very grateful if you could consider cancelling the PCN as a matter of fairness and discretion.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 12, 2025, 12:37:23 pm »
Hi all would like to bump this thread as the deadline is approaching. Many thanks!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 06, 2025, 08:54:53 pm »
TY for the great suggestion. Would appreciate if people could help give the below draft a once-over? Many thanks.


Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to challenge PCN [number]. I’m sincerely sorry that my parking has caused concern, I always try to park properly and within the rules and it wasn’t my intention to cause an issue.

When I parked the night before, the end of the bay was very difficult to judge since that whole section of road was covered by standing water and leaves. The conditions were of course worse during the night and rain, but even in the CEO's evidence photos from the next morning you can still see standing water covering the kerb-side markings for several feet behind the vehicle, which reflects how unclear the area had been.

I also noticed that the PCN was issued instantly with no observation time recorded. As set out in Brent’s published parking policy, a CEO is expected to allow a minimum observation period in situations where a statutory exemption to the contravention such as loading might apply. With no observation time recorded at all, it appears this assessment was not carried out.

Given the visibility conditions the night I parked and the lack of any observation to confirm that no exemption applied, I would be very grateful if the council could cancel the PCN as a matter of fairness and discretion.

Thank you for taking the time to consider my challenge.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 03, 2025, 01:28:10 pm »
Ah okay. Thank you. Any suggestion on how to find this Traffic Order? I've tried the council website but without much luck.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 03, 2025, 01:18:49 pm »
Are you suggesting the defence should be the other way round? That the higher penalty should've been issued - therefore the PCN is invalid? There should be a yellow line under the leaves if I'm not mistaken (I can go take a picture later if it helps).

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 02, 2025, 11:43:50 pm »
There was no line visible as far as that shown pavement stretched. But after a few yards the pavement turns into a dropped kerb entryway for a building, next to which part of the yellow line is visible. There's no indication that yellow line stretches past that dropped kerb all the way to the pavement in question. See video.

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Also curious if the yellow line thing is a red herring altogether? Since the contravention is to do with the bay marking, I wonder what the Brent TMO regarding bays is. This example from Bromley gets off due to peculiar wording in the TMO requiring the bay itself to have a parking meter next to it, not sure if that's the case for Brent too.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Brent, Not parked within bay markings (24), Cumberland Avenue cpz. Yellow line not visible due to water and leaves.
« on: December 02, 2025, 11:08:47 pm »
  • Code 24 Not parked within bay markings
  • The back wheels were indeed slightly outside the bay.
  • The bay has a sign next to it saying it's Free Parking.
  • There was no indication of the single yellow line at the end of the bay as it was (and still is) completely covered by water and leaves (the bit the back wheels are near).
  • Picture of PCN link
  • Picture showing that the single yellow line next to back wheels is not visible at all link
Is there a case here? Many thanks in advance.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
« on: March 18, 2025, 09:47:05 pm »
Thank you for pointing me to that! Here are full details:

Council: Brent
Contravention: 232 (Parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle)
Location: Lakeside Drive Loading Bay

[PCN LINK]

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
« on: March 18, 2025, 09:35:35 pm »
The photo timestamp is 1 minute after the PCN issue... sounds like that's how its meant to be?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
« on: March 18, 2025, 09:17:02 pm »
Have a ground 23 (Parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle) PCN, where the evidence images on the council website show the car with the yellow ticket already on the windshield. Is this a ground that could be used to dispute the ticket? Everything else about the PCN looks fine. Many thanks!

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