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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP Notice - Charged with Speeding and failure to give info relating to ID of the driver
« on: June 09, 2025, 04:02:30 pm »
Thank you @NewJudge.

I did as you suggested above and have subsequently received a Court Date in August. Is there anything further I can do to prepare?

I am also interested how you're so confident that they don't have any evidence that I was the driver? Is this because they wrote to ask me to confirm who the driver was?

How is this now likely to play out when at Court?

Thank you,

Ben

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Speeding and other criminal offences / SJP Notice - Charged with Speeding and failure to give info relating to ID of the driver
« on: March 06, 2025, 10:39:47 am »
Hi,

I have received a Single Joint Procedure (SJP) notice from West Midlands Police. The two offences are as follows:

1. Fail to give information relating to the ID of the driver/rider of a vehicle when required (Section 172 3). Dated 02/10/2024 
2. Exceed a variable speed limit - automatic camera (72mph in a 60mph) Temp restriction. Dated 29/08/2024

The posting date of the SJP is 14/02/2025 and the Charged Date and date the plea must be received by is 12/03/2025.

Background:

I was the driver of the vehicle at the time of the offence.

The original speeding notice (dated 02/09/2024) was received in the post, albeit I didn't open the letter until just a few days before the SJP notice was received. The original notice was found in our daughter's room, unopened. Once opened, I tried to login via the online portal but the login details provided did enable me to provide the details, I suspect because the response date had lapsed. I quickly took some legal advice but a few days later the SJP notice arrived.

In summary, I was the driver, I can't deny the speeding offence and I didn't respond to the request for information within the timeframes due to an administrative error at home! Very frustrating but probably not a suitable defence?

I have a clean driving history and no points on my licence, but like most people, I can't afford the 9 points. Driving is essential for my work and we have 2 children with a 3rd one due imminently.

I have heard/read mixed advice on what to do.

1. Plead guilty to both offences, state the mitigating facts and hope that I get away with 3 points and a fine. 2. Plead NOT guilty to both offences but propose that I am willing to plead guilty to the speeding offence only if the other charge of not supplying info is dropped.

My preference is Option 2 but it does seem quite punchy when I don't feel in a very strong negotiating position! On the other side, I have a good track record and would back myself to put together a strong letter of mitigation etc.

Questions:
a) Am I best to go down route 1, 2, or another strategy?
b) Do those providing advice on here have appropriate qualifications/experience at court etc? 
c) Does anyone have any experience with using strategy 2. specifically with West Midlands Police in recent times?

Thank you for any help/guidance received. Thanks,
 


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