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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: (PCN) NJ41731881 London borough of Hounslow Code 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction where prohibited
« on: April 19, 2025, 02:24:07 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 04, 2025, 02:32:05 pm
Quote from: EllzBellz on March 04, 2025, 01:37:46 pm
Quote from: MrChips on March 03, 2025, 10:34:34 pm
Thank you
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 04, 2025, 11:56:51 am
I can use this in my appeal also?
Just the PCN issue from me. Mr Chips will be along. The website can wait until later.

My suggested draft:

1. The alleged contravention did not occur as the video quality is (i) so poor and (ii) even playing it several times it just about shows there is no contravention of entering and stopping due to the presence of stationary vehicles and there was sufficient gap to proceed which I wasn't able to do because of other traffic.

2. The PCN is invalid...............

In light of the above, please cancel.

In my view, this is a most opportunistic attempt to take your money. I am more than happy to represent  you at the Tribunal if they wish to take this further.


Hi

I have received the response upholding the PCN see link below

https://imgur.com/a/s8RNeoU

Please advise,

Thank you

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: (PCN) NJ41731881 London borough of Hounslow Code 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction where prohibited
« on: March 04, 2025, 01:37:46 pm »
Quote from: MrChips on March 03, 2025, 10:34:34 pm
Thank you
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 04, 2025, 11:56:51 am
I can use this in my appeal also?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: (PCN) NJ41731881 London borough of Hounslow Code 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction wh
« on: March 03, 2025, 07:46:35 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on March 03, 2025, 04:48:40 pm
Interesting one - I'm going no contravention as space opened up for you and other vehicles - car and bike - were not stationary.

Note to all - video quality is as per Hounslow.


what does no contravention mean?

Quote from: MrChips on March 03, 2025, 05:30:33 pm
Agreed. The only car which stops in the box junction never has a stationary vehicle blocking its exit.

OP, can't see you losing this one if you stick it out to the end.
Could you advise further please?

Quote from: Hippocrates on March 03, 2025, 07:15:22 pm
Also, the PCN is invalid too.
how is the PCN invalid?


Could I say I stopped to give way to other vehicles (the bike)? and due to the unexpected actions of the vehicle in front of me (the car)?
Thanks for the advice I am new to this so not sure of all the terminology.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / (PCN) NJ41731881 London borough of Hounslow Code 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction where prohibited
« on: March 03, 2025, 03:29:36 pm »
(PCN) NJ41731881
London borough of Hounslow
Code 31J Entering and stopping in a box junction where prohibited
Bath Road (outside Hounslow West station)

Hi please help with advice on appealing the PCN , this happened as a bus 3 cars ahead stopped and as I went through a green traffic light I entered the box, the bus ahead  prevented the flow of traffic from moving and I was stuck on the box without knowing the roads I didn’t know what to do or where to go.

https://imgur.com/a/wN4ATii

https://maps.app.goo.gl/gVHvNVzL5qorWyEa6

Many thanks

Ellie

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