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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornh
« on: March 03, 2025, 12:30:35 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on March 03, 2025, 12:28:30 pm
Are the name and address on the charge certificate correct and are there any post problems.

In any case you don't want the order for recovery going missing which is why we recommend checking in with the Traffic Enforcement Centre at intervals to check if the debt has been registered.

Ok, will do, thank you.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornh
« on: March 03, 2025, 12:28:47 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 03, 2025, 12:19:54 pm
This is why they call me the father of medicine! A simple request: please sign my petition and pass on before you go to bed tonight.  8)

haha! Yes, perfect name for you! Petition Signed, sealed and delivered

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornh
« on: March 03, 2025, 11:56:15 am »
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 03, 2025, 11:05:44 am
Quote from: Incandescent on March 02, 2025, 08:21:33 pm
The amount can only now increase by £10, which is the fee for registering the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (TEC)  at Northampton. When CoL does this, they must send you an Order for Recovery, and also include the form to submit a Statutory Declaration to TEC that you never received the original PCN. You fill in the form (PE3), get it witnessed, (free at councty court, or circa £10 at a solicitors), and send it off. It's best to send it off electronically if you can.
TEC will order the CC and OfR to be cancelled, and you return to the PCN stage, at which point you can pay or appeal.

+1. You need to make an appointment with the court and sign in front of the court witness. As Incandescent says, copy it and send to the TEC via e mail. When this part of the process gets resolved, I am happy to represent you.I have had success with this authority and at this location.

Thank you SO MUCH, Hippocrates! You have made my day. I haven't slept well since getting Charge Certificate but will sleep well tonight, thanks to you :)

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornh
« on: March 03, 2025, 10:38:28 am »
Quote from: John U.K. on March 03, 2025, 08:50:29 am
For convenience:



Thanks, John U.K.  :)

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornh
« on: March 02, 2025, 08:26:04 pm »
Quote from: Incandescent on March 02, 2025, 08:21:33 pm
The amount can only now increase by £10, which is the fee for registering the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (TEC)  at Northampton. When CoL does this, they must send you an Order for Recovery, and also include the form to submit a Statutory Declaration to TEC that you never received the original PCN. You fill in the form (PE3), get it witnessed, (free at councty court, or circa £10 at a solicitors), and send it off. It's best to send it off electronically if you can.
TEC will order the CC and OfR to be cancelled, and you return to the PCN stage, at which point you can pay or appeal.

Thank you, I will do just that. If today was a Monday, I would have rung the CoL instead of finding this wonderful forum :) I'm so glad I did

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornh
« on: March 02, 2025, 08:25:04 pm »
Quote from: Enceladus on March 02, 2025, 08:16:12 pm
There is a standard procedure guide for this, see here. Wait for the next stage which is the Order for Recovery (of unpaid penalty charge). This will add the £10 court fee to the charge. You can then submit the Statutory Declaration which will be attached to the OfR notice. The Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court will issue an order revoking the OfR and cancelling the Charge Cert. The City will then have to re-serve the PCN in order to continue to enforce.

Thank you, that's a huge relief.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / No PCN received, only Charge Certificate City of London; code: 52M only buses & bikes allowed between 7am-7pm, Cornhill
« on: March 02, 2025, 08:06:39 pm »
@cp8759

I received a Charge Certificate yesterday (March 1, 2025). It was dated February 28, 2025. I don't dispute that I did this as it was very dark and I didn't see the sign but there is one as you enter from one side, so I'm assuming there was a sign where I entered.

My issue is the fact I NEVER received the PCN! On my life, I never received this PCN.

Whenever I've had a ticket (only had about 5 in 30 years of driving), I've paid it straight away, I've never seen a Charge Certificate until now. I actually thought it was a PCN just without photos which was strange.

Front page: https://imgur.com/a/XeIcmqH

Back page: https://imgur.com/a/TbvyK6B

Google Street View link: https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.513441,-0.084237,243.07h,-6.53p,1z,I45sMi_oDwG3zmJGhLAyhQ

Is it worth writing and asking for the PCN now and seeing if they would reduce the amount back to £130 from £195 or shall I just assume that they can just say they posted the PCN and it got lost in the post. In the meantime, they will keep increasing the amount?

Thank you for reading this.

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