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Speeding is a criminal offence, but it is not recordable - so no criminal record (as regards ordinary disclosure).

Thank you for clearing this up. Decided top plead guilty. Awesome website. Thanks both.

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Why will I still be convicted if I am pleading not guilty and case is valid
- or is that on assumption that court would not find in my favour
- based off your own experience with similar scenarios

Thanks again!

Because “I wrote them a letter and they didn’t reply” isn’t a defence.

Thanks.

Final question, I was wary of pleading guilty as does this mean I will have a criminal record?
Practically trying to understand the consequences.

Thanks again.

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Your options are to plead guilty, get a 1/2 discount of the fine (and the 40% surcharge on the fine), and face £95 prosecution costs, on top of whatever endorsement (points) the court orders, or
plead not guilty. If your defence is that they didn't respond to your letter asking them to consider dropping the second offence because you did the course for the first offence, you will be convicted, lose the 1/3 discount and face ~£620 prosecution costs.

Thanks for the quick response.

Why will I still be convicted if I am pleading not guilty and case is valid
- or is that on assumption that court would not find in my favour
- based off your own experience with similar scenarios

Thanks again!

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We can’t advise on the impact of the second offence without more details - speed limited, alleged speed and so on.

Thanks. Updated original message.
Both offences were around 25mph in a 20mph zone.

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Hi All. I need some advice. I received 2 speeding fines (~ 25mph in a 20mph) within one month of one another (on same road). I received notice of first fine and on request for doing a course, fine an/or points I opted for the speed awareness course. But then that same week the notice for second fine came through. I wrote a letter to the service to ask if the course could be considered for both. I did not receive a response so assumed it was fine. Sat the course. Then a few months later got a Single Justice Procedure Notice?!?

I'd like to contest as do feel like I was trying to find a solution but got ignored until it came to this.

Timeline
16th Aug. 2024 - First speeding offence
07th Sep. 2024 - Second speeding offence
Can't remember exact date but letter of offer for speed awareness course. 
15th Sep. 2024 - Letter sent to Metropolitan Police for course to cover both offenses
15th Sep. 2024 - Speed awareness course booked
03rd Oct. 2024 - Completed speed awareness course
20th Feb 2025 - Received a Single Justice Procedure notice.

I’m considering pleading guilty, as I acknowledge the offence, but I need to understand the full consequences, including potential penalties, impacts on my driving record, and any long-term effects.
Alternatively, I’d like to know what to expect if I plead not guilty, including the formal court process and any risks involved.

Anyone had any similar experience?
I’d appreciate any insights or experiences from others who have navigated a similar situation.

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