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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: 2 successive offences, how to respond to SJPN
« on: August 19, 2023, 11:29:56 am »
I have received 1 SJPN, but not the second offences where 12th February
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Speeding and other criminal offences / 2 successive offences, how to respond to SJPN
« on: August 19, 2023, 01:04:14 am »I have been pointed here so hoping for the best.
Over 2 successive days in February - I was caught by the same mobile speed camera in the same place (36 in a 30). With 6 points on my license (3 will drop off in Feb 2024 however) I now risk loosing my license by getting an additional 6.
The question I have is, do I plead guilty to one offence and then go to court to plead my circumstances for the second offence - or contest them both?
If anyone is interested in why I would like to contest:
This mobile speed camera was parked in a 30 zone (small hamlet) that is situated at the bottom of a 50 mph hill, once through the small hamlet the next half mile goes back to 50, 40 to 30.
In the 30 zone itself - there is only 1 30 mph sign on the right (set back from the road in a layby and partly obscured by a hedge overgrowing it) - I 'found' two school signs (both obscured by overgrowth - i believe the school is defunct) I have photographed everything. This is not a busy hamlet - rarely if ever do you see people on the pavement - similar areas further down the road are 40mph zones.
There is however a sign stating it is a 30 zone when entering the hamlet itself. But once in, there is only the 1 sign and it is obscured to your right as you approach the speed camera.
Before anyone is to harsh - I was under a lot of stress. my wife had just told me she is divorcing. I am the sole bread winner and am responsible for driving the kids to school - I was rushing home to work after dropping one child at nursery.
I will be a single dad with full responsibility for kids and getting them around a very rural area. So I really cant afford to not to be able to drive (if I loose my license the kids may have to move school or I will have to leave my job to bring them there via terrible public transport)
first speeding offence (nearly 3 years ago) - did 60mph on a temporary 50pmh zone on the M4 (empty road at 10pm during the lock down)
Second offence (January this year) - speeding (slightly over) on the M4 - can't excuse this once, just stressed with life.
Really appreciate any advice and how to handle the first SJPN I have received in the post.
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