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Thanks @Incandescent - don't worry, that question was bound to arise! The first sign (the No Left Turn) I simply missed - perhaps the first pic doesn't show it sufficiently well, but it's positioned on the far left hand side of the pavement. Other signs are nearer to the kerb (as is usual) and closer to the road. Secondly, the cycle lane means that motorists are more or less in the middle of the road, and it's very easy to miss the sign given it is further away from drivers than usual - plus of course there is no camera enforcement sign on the approach road at all. 

The enforcement camera signs at the end of Annette Road face 45 degrees away from motorists driving down Tollington Road - so they see them for the first time as they're turning left through them. This is made even worse of course if you missed the No Left Turn sign.

No I didn't have a sat-nav running, but I agree the likelihood of a successful appeal doesn't look good - but can't help thinking a couple of well positioned signs on the approach to Annette Road would mean fewer motorists would be in the position I am.

Hi @Cantab1985

Sorry to hear you got done too. The text of my formal representation is in the above thread in full. It was basically the same as the informal rep.

Don't be deterred by the fact your informal rep was rejected - their business model works on the basis that they reject virtually every informal rep.

I think the the key point in my case was that they said that "BUS LANE" was clearly written in the road (which they are required to do) - and it wasn't. So unless they've gone back and put it on the road since, I'd focus on that. But you can see my other rationale about inadequate signage and errors on the PCN and Enforcement Notice too.

Ultimately, I do not know why my PCN was cancelled, but I suspect (or like to think) they realised they would lose at tribunal  on the basis they made a factual error re the legend. But in reality, it may be that they were simply overwhelmed and couldn't reply within a decent period of time. Who knows.

Good luck!

This official .gov.uk details proposed changes to be made due to a large number of accidents around Pellens Corner. It states the section will now have average speed cameras (hence no flash) and speed limit of 50 MPH.

Pellens Corner A120

The news article was withdrawn, no idea why.

Here is a Highways Agency document on the changes, all points to it being a 50MPH Average Speed enforced section of road.

Highway Agency

Many thanks for this @FuzzyDuck. I do not recall seeing signs for the average speed cameras, or for the 50mph limit. Doesn't mean they weren't there though, but ideally I would like reassurance they were before I accept the fine. Feels like I will just have to take their word for it and that they complied with the regs that allow them to issue fines/courses. I have won cases where authorities failed to do this and I have proved it - however this one is a long way from home and I don't know whereabouts to start looking even if I were to go back there.

Quote from: henryjago on August 24, 2025, 03:58:57 pm

Happy to provide as much info as necessary!

The preferred approach is that you tell us everything that might conceivably be useful in assisting us to help you (without unnecessarily divulging sensitive personal information), and we tell you if we need anything else.

Drip feeding/pulling teeth leads many posters to question whether they have anything better to do with their time.

Apologies - I was just trying to be concise. I enclose a copy of the the letter. I don't think I have anything further to post and I certainly have no intention of wasting anyone's time. 

Hello,

Essex Police sent me a NIP for exceeding 50 mph "in contravention of a local traffic order". I was done on an "automatic camera device".

I was in the area on the date and at time stated, but have no recollection of a junction, signs or roadworks that could have been present when the camera took images of my car. I have no memory of a camera flash either - and it was late at night on a country road.

I confirmed I was the driver at the time of the alleged offence have received a letter that restates the vague location (which I cannot pinpoint on google maps) and the offence, offering a speed awareness course or to accept a £100 fine and three points.

Images are not included and there is no detail about how fast I was actually going - I am certain it was not much over 50mph.

There is a number to call and an email address for "queries relating to the offence or issuing of the fixed penalty notice".

I intend to request the images and ask for the precise location where they were taken, and if there were temporary restrictions in place. That way I can try to check if this has been issued correctly.

Any other suggestions before I do? Happy to provide as much info as necessary!

Thanks all.

Hello @cp8759 and @Hippocrates.

Hadn't heard a dickie bird about this for months, so just checked the PCN status. TfL cancelled the PCN last Friday! I have not received notification by post, or by email so have no idea why. Not that I am overly concerned about the reason, but it would be interesting. Obviously a good outcome for me, but I do wonder if they'd left it so long, they knew they'd have a hard time explaining the delay at Tribunal? Any ideas/thoughts?

Thanks both.