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I’ve received the DVD but it doesn’t work!
I have tried it on a PlayStation and a DVD player and in both cases it says ‘cannot be played’. Other DVDs work perfectly fine on both devices.

The status of my rep without the DVD footage is still currently ‘under review’.

what should I do?

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Yes there were two of us involved in the unloading.

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Unfortunately the TfL status of my rep says it’s been rejected as of today. Haven’t received an email with an explanation yet.

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Ok, but will that not just result in them rejecting my rep in favour of their images?

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Ok, thank you. I will make a representation making the following points:
- I was turning left and only turned when I saw the traffic ahead of me was moving and would allow me to cross through the box junction. The car infront of me was moving into the space in front and I was following the flow of traffic. If the car ahead of me had been quicker in moving into the space infront of it then the flow of traffic would have been quicker and my back wheels wouldn't have been captured on the box even though I was moving.
- I have requested video evidence to show I was moving but TFL can not confirm when I will receive this so am having to make the representation without it to avoid the charge increasing.
- I have lived here for over ten years and regularly use this junction - I have never had this problem before.
- Other cars are clearly stationary in the box but their registration plates are not visible. It is unfortunate that I have penalised due to my registration being visible, despite my car being on the move.


Are there any points I should drop, rewrite or add? Thank you.

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I just spoke to TFL to request the video footage. They said they have put through a request for the footage to be posted to me but when I asked for confirmation that the case could be put on hold until I receive the DVD, they said it is not in their policy to do that and they wouldn't, nor could they confirm how long it would take for the DVD to arrive.They said if you don't make a rep before the date specified, the fee will just increase - I explained I needed the evidence but they said there's nothing they can do. Any advice? Or just sit and hope the DVD arrives quickly!?

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Ok, so do you think it’s not worth pursuing with video evidence given the pictures ? If I do get the video evidence and make a rep and don’t win, will the discount be lost?

The fact that it’s only very slightly part of my back wheel and that this has never happened before in last 10 years I’ve lived there won’t count?

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What a nuisance! Do any of the other points I raised have any weight in my case? The pictures showing the car has moved within seconds, the other cars who were stationary but number plates blocked  so got away etc?

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Do they still use DVD?! Surely they can provide me with a link via email which i can then share here? Any idea who I should email, what to say and how to get confirmation the discount is on hold?
Thanks.

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Hi experts!

I've been hit with a PCN for contravention 31: entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, however I was moving as I was turning left! There is no footage to suggest that I stopped in the junction - The timing of the images show that the car is continuously moving. The picture also doesn't show that there is standstill traffic ahead of the car infront of me - whenever I turn here, I ensure the traffic is moving so that there is enough space for me to avoid the junction. I've been using this junction for over 10 years and have never had a problem before.

Furthermore, there are at least three cars that have clearly stopped in the box junction but it looks like their number plates were blocked each other, and the camera couldn't capture them. It only got mine as I was turning left and moving so it was visible. I find this unfair as I didn't stop and the other cars clearly have stopped but their number plates aren't visible.

I am keen to make a representation - do I need to request video footage to show I was moving? Any expert advice on this would be hugely appreciated.

All info you might need is below.
Thanks

PCN: GX09553231

GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/J46QHJARE4YSiU3R9

PCN Images:
https://ibb.co/XZsqhHJ
https://ibb.co/h74RTDf
https://ibb.co/4spkShQ
https://ibb.co/xGY7KTH

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Any further final comments on the draft appeal? Thanks so much!

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Thanks. Here is the updated draft for comment.

Dear Sir/Madam,
 
I am writing to formally appeal the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued to my vehicle under contravention code 62, with PCN number [PCN Number]. I contest the PCN on the grounds of unloading heavy items from my vehicle in a responsible and timely manner.
 
On the date in question, I was in the process of unloading several heavy and bulky items from my vehicle, including a television, an electric scooter, flooring, building tools, and furniture. These items necessitated a larger space for unloading due to their size and weight, making it impractical to unload anywhere else.

We have had a flat at this address for 13 years. It is our understanding that the dropped kerb and area within the bollards were provided for the purpose of loading and unloading without obstructing the A4. Both ourselves and our neighbours have done so for this purpose in the past without any problems, historic GSV picture also show vans parked there. There is no visible signage indicating otherwise. Please also note that the property is situated on a dual carriageway, and the closest alternative road is not only too far for unloading purposes, but is designated exclusively for permit resident holders and disabled badge holders only.

In light of this situation, and with the intention of ensuring the safety of pedestrians and fellow road users, I opted to briefly park my vehicle on the footpath in order to expedite the unloading process.

Crucially, I want to emphasize that my vehicle was never left unattended during the unloading process, as evident in the photographs. I was actively engaged in the task, ensuring that the vehicle did not obstruct the passage of pedestrians or impede the flow of traffic in any way. The entire incident, as indicated on the PCN, lasted less than a minute (from 12:48 to 12:48), affirming my commitment to swiftly completing the unloading process while adhering to road safety guidelines.
 
During the unloading, I encountered an enforcement officer who conveyed that continuing with the unloading would result in a PCN - he was not prevented from serving a PCN by affixing to my vehicle. I immediately ceased unloading and moved my car to avoid any further complications. To my surprise, I received the PCN by post despite moving my vehicle and complying with the officer's instructions.

Given these circumstances, I kindly request that you reconsider the imposition of the penalty charge, in favour of the loading exemption. I firmly believe that the genuine effort to ensure the safety of pedestrians and my prompt response to the enforcement officer’s instructions should warrant a review of the PCN. I am more than willing to provide any additional evidence or documentation to substantiate my claims.
 
Thank you for your time and understanding. I anticipate a fair and just resolution to this matter.
 
Sincerely,

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A ceo employed by TfL. I’ll be submitting the rep tmro. Any last comments / advice on draft appreciated. .

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Hi, I spoke to highways at RBK&C and they say that it's TFL who is responsible for the pavement outside my flat.

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Thank you. I haven't managed to get through to the council yet but will try again tomorrow!

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