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it was definitely on clarence road

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I got a PCN on Clarence Road in Grays even though I had paid for parking and clearly displayed a ticket.

The issue is that there are two pay and display machines on opposite sides of the same road with different tariffs and different maximum stay times. One side is short stay and the other is long stay, but this is not made clear enough on the street itself. It is just one stretch of on street parking, with no obvious bay separation that would make a driver realise the machine on one side does not apply to the other.

I bought a ticket at 12:36 and displayed it. The officer issued the PCN at 13:27 to 13:28. I later spoke to an attendant who confirmed that one side is short stay and the other is long stay with different tariffs, and also said this happens a lot.

So the problem is not that I failed to pay. I did pay and displayed a ticket. The problem is that the layout is confusing and seems to catch people out regularly.

Has anyone else had this issue on Clarence Road in Grays or successfully challenged a PCN there on the basis of unclear signage or confusing machine placement?

https://postimg.cc/gallery/50dTqkg

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Update: THURROCK COUNCIL'S RESPONSE - It remains the responsibility of the blue badge holder to ensure that their badge is clearly displayed before leaving the vehicle. A quick check of the vehicle and badge after closing all the doors and before leaving would identify the problem with the badge and allow the badge holder to rectify it.
The mitigating circumstances you described in your formal representation does not exempt you from the parking regulations and I am therefore unable to revoke the PCN.

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Yes i told him and he said i should appeal.
I got annoyed and left it on the car whilst finishing up my unloading, a bit silly as it started to rain right after

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Thurrock Council PCN issued while I was unloading bulky items (mirrors and business equipment) for a new business opening in the mall right infront of me. Unloading was continuous and required multiple trips. I'm a 5'3 59kg female so takes a bit of time to unload large mirrors into a mall and return

Parking attendant says he observed for approx 9 minutes. I returned to the vehicle before the PCN was actually served. I have a photo showing him standing next to my vehicle with no PCN on the windscreen. The PCN was printed and then placed on there while I was present.

The PCN was left on the vehicle during heavy rain and is now largely illegible, including the PCN date and full contravention details.

At this stage I am asking:
• does returning before service strengthen the loading defence?
• is a 9 minute observation sufficient to rebut loading?
• how best to deploy the illegible PCN point?

I will upload redacted photos and the PCN once advised.
https://share.google/FEZc1gyJP7WiXYvZM - this is the location,

i was parked right infront of the loading sign

Thank you.

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its the last two letters of the the expiry year and a couple figures from the badge id

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No to be honest, i hadm't realised, could i appeal with the full photo?

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PCN details
PCN number: TK03901212
Vehicle registration: KN73 RVP
PCN served as: Windscreen PCN
Contravention code: 01
Contravention description: Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours
Date of alleged contravention: 20/12/2025
Time of alleged contravention: 16:22
Location: Cart Lane
Current stage: PCN (informal challenge stage)

What happened
I parked on Cart Lane in the afternoon and displayed a valid blue badge with time clock correctly set and clearly visible on the dashboard.
The vehicle was parked on double yellow lines.
The PCN was issued despite the blue badge being displayed.
Photos taken immediately after show the badge and clock visible through the windscreen.
I understand blue badge holders are permitted to park on double yellow lines for up to three hours unless specific loading bans or additional restrictions apply, and I did not see any signage indicating such restrictions at this location.

I am seeking advice on whether the contravention occurred, whether the signage and restrictions are compliant, and the best grounds for an informal challenge.

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Why didn't Mum move the car when the traffic warden appeared? Because she thought she was legally parked?

yeah and was taking a call so musn't have noticed the warden till he placed the ticket on the car

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My mum received a parking ticket, for parking in a suspended bay and she was unaware of this, She was still in the car and received the ticket, from the photos I cannot see the sign of the suspended bay next to the car or the space so unsure of how clear it was for her, but she also didn't leave the car and drove off shortly after without getting out. How do I appeal this please

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I have attached my defence along with their response.

I initially responded on 3/11/24, and the rejection was issued on 5/11/24. However, I did not receive the rejection until 28/11/24 due to it being sent to the wrong address. Upon receiving it, I immediately responded on the same date, stating that I had not received it in time but was willing to pay the discounted rate of £65 instead of £130.

On 9/12/24, I received a response stating that they would not be engaging in any further correspondence. Subsequently, a surcharge of £65 on top of the £130  was applied on 11/12/24. Unfortunately, I was away at the time and did not see both letters until my return 14/01/25.

To be fair, I was willing to pay the discounted rate and was awaiting a response to my message sent on 28/11.

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