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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: November 09, 2025, 02:15:54 pm »
As you can see, appealling is always a good choice  8)

Many thanks to Hippocrates for sharing his knowledge and for the representation before the Tribunals!
It's been a great experience to see how the system works  ;)   

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: August 21, 2025, 11:32:20 am »
Thanks mate, looking forward to having your advice.
If I were to appeal, I would need to do it till Monday 25th (or Tuesday 26th, but let's not tempt fate here  ;) )

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: August 18, 2025, 12:32:44 pm »
How about this, combining two points:

In my opinion, the video does not show the situation upon alleged entry into the YBJ and so it follows that the alleged contravention is not proved (please refer to the following cases: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Place%20Invaders%20Ltd.doc )
Additionally, when I entered the box, I was going to take the left lane while leaving the junction - just after that beige Nissan Micra, where there was enough space to exit the yellow box.
However, I checked my mirror before going to the left lane, and I got scared by that big van coming right behind me at high speed – so I had to take the right lane for my safety.

Based on the above, I would kindly ask to approve my appeal.


However, I am not sure if I am not making two contradicting statements here - one that there was no proved contradiction (from  the legal standpoint), but on the other hand I am kind of explaining that it actually was, but it was not my fault...
Any hint, guys?



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: August 14, 2025, 01:39:32 pm »
Hello guys,

I have received a rejection to my formal representation: LINK

It is dated 29.07.2025, so it must have come right after I had left for my holiday (on 1.08). I found it in the evening yesterday, right after coming back home.
There are still 12 days to take it to the London Tribunals, but as I am new to this - do you have any advice on the wording, arguments to be used, etc.?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: June 14, 2025, 07:59:29 pm »
 :)
Too much hustle and too much time to spend...

Anyway, thanks again mate!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: June 14, 2025, 07:39:28 pm »
Nah, I think I am good and happy enough with this outcome... 

But suppose I filed a complaint, would they compensate me for moral damage?  ;)


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: June 14, 2025, 06:51:04 pm »
Hi guys,

I have just received their response: Notice of Acceptance

It worked, they have cancelled the PCN! 
They have admitted it directly - a CEO error 8)

Many thanks for all your input and support, you are great - cheers! 🍺🍺🍺

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: June 04, 2025, 11:35:50 am »
Great, my chances are increasing  :), but I think it will end in the Tribunals anyway - I guess Havering will still stick to their position...

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: May 07, 2025, 07:19:27 pm »
Thanks, duly noted.

I made it with the recommended wording, so let's wait till they respond.
Cheers!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: May 07, 2025, 05:35:38 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on May 07, 2025, 05:19:24 pm
Please show the representation first. If you are going with the video issue, contravention did not occur.  Leave the website for now.

Maybe I don't get something here, but I was going to go exactly as you advised:

The video does not show the situation upon alleged entry into the YBJ and so it follows that the alleged contravention is not proved.  I refer you to the following cases:

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Place%20Invaders%20Ltd.doc

In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.

By the way, if I take this approach now, and they reject it, will I be able to go with another approach ("I was going to take the left lane leaving the junction just after that beige Nissan Micra, but I looked in the mirror and got scared by that big van coming right behind me at high speed – so I stayed on the right lane for my safety, not blocking any traffic after all?") before the London Tribunals?



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 31J, entering and stopping in a box junction
« on: May 07, 2025, 05:09:37 pm »
Guys,

I am making the representation.

What should I mark as the Representation Reason?
A - The alleged Contravention did not occur
F - There has been a procedural impropriety by the Enforcement Authority
I - Other?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: May 07, 2025, 02:01:45 pm »

OK, so 26th June it is.
That will give me a lot of time to react before my vacation - if they reject again.   

As I have another PCN to challenge (dated 17.04.2025) HERE, I will not wait till next week to do it, but I will make the representation as soon as possible. 

Thanks for confirming the timelines!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: May 07, 2025, 11:51:59 am »
Yes, I did it on 2nd of May.
So the message was wrong and it should be 56 calendar days, actually?
I am a bit lost here...

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: May 07, 2025, 11:31:19 am »
Guys, I had some second thoughts and I got confused again.

The message I got after making the representation clearly says they will respond within 56 WORKING days, not calendar days.
This excludes weekends and bank holidays, right?
If so, their deadline is (after recalculation) 23.07.2025...

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n2bx0mphhgnd33mxmai9s/Representation-code-62.jpg?rlkey=gnk1765vok805pnprw90e1eue&st=3i8m2coy&dl=0

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: LB Havering, code 62, one wheel over a "footpath"
« on: May 05, 2025, 01:11:08 pm »
My bad!
It's June, not July - I have no idea how I had calculated that before...  :-[

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