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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: June 06, 2025, 01:36:30 pm »
Sorry - I wasn't clear.

I want to do a deal but worried they won't let me before the case is heard - mainly driven by the fact that they're making me attend court. I just wanted to have a backup plan in mind inlight of the form not being sent but I don't have a certificate of posting.


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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: June 06, 2025, 12:06:34 pm »
S172 defence is simply the fact I've sent the submission but it's clearly not been received - nothing more to say. I can't be the only one who's had forms lost in the post  ::) . Even the postal service will state proof of dispatch is not proof of receipt.

I would prefer to avoid the S172 as that carries the greater impact on points, premiums etc.

There are various mitigations I can add (carer for handicapped family member etc) but I don't feel I need to if I'm going with the 'lost in post' defence.

Ta


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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: June 06, 2025, 11:31:24 am »
No, yes

Thanks

As per previous threads I'll suggest they drop the offence of the failure to provide if I plead guilty to the speeding but if it ends up in the courtroom, any words of advice?


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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: June 06, 2025, 10:45:04 am »
I got my court summons today for both offences - failing to ID driver + Original speeding offence.

Does that mean guidance has changed or can I still approach the prosecutor in the morning outside of court and see if a deal can be done?

Thanks

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: January 05, 2025, 12:02:18 pm »
I also read this thread: https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/nip-responded-to-but-did-not-receive-fpn-now-received-sjpn/

Which is similar in circumstances 79 in a 70 etc. Wondering if this means I should plead guilty to the speeding and not guilty to the failure to provide driver details charge instead?

Thanks

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: January 05, 2025, 11:49:25 am »
thanks for the quick advice. Do I use the 'reason to please NG" box on the online portal to state:

"I am willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped"

?

Cheers

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Speeding and other criminal offences / SJP for Motorway Speeding
« on: January 05, 2025, 11:42:04 am »
Hi

I received an SJP for doing 79 in a 70MPH zone and also failing to complete the paperwork to identify the driver.

Unfortunately the deadline for submitting the plea is tomorrow and having read the previous similar threads it looks like I should plead not-guilty and do the 'deal' on the day with the representative and agree to plead guilty to the speeding in exchange for them dropping the other charge.

In truth, I completed the driver identification but clearly it's not reached them for whatever reason and I've now been sent the SJP.

I just wanted to check what the advice of the experts on here is before I go ahead and please not guilty on the online portal later today.

thanks

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