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Thanks for asking! No news on the first one at all - I guess the 6 months had passed, triggering a flag, and thus they charged me for the second one.

Genuinely, a massive thanks to everyone for the advice here. Followed as recommended, and was sentenced at the fixed penalty level (£100 + 3 points).This is a superb resource for helping people out so well!

Quote from: andy_foster on 03 Jan, 2025 09:25If proceedings have not been instigated within the 6 months (from date of offence), they cannot [lawfully] instigate proceedings.You will not generally know whether or not proceedings have been instigated unless/until you receive the SJPN.No matter how many times you ask the same question, the answer is still the same.Okay, thank you very much! Keeping my fingers crossed.

Quote from: NewJudge on 03 Jan, 2025 09:07If i is more than six months from the date of the offence it is too late for proceedings to be taken. All that went before (in the way of fixed penalty offers) are irrelevant to that.Have you checked your licence online to see if any convictions have been recorded against you?Thank you NewJudge. It has been 6 months from the 1st offence, and I have no penalties, offences or points recorded on my licence.Does this mean that I paid the £100 for the first offence (on 16th June) but did not send my licence info, and it basically fell through the cracks of the system and the matter is closed?That would be a big relief if so!

Quote from: 666 on 03 Jan, 2025 06:47I think you mean COFP, not FPN. Whatever, the answer is no., it wouldn't help. But it's too late to trigger another SJPN.Yes I did mean COFP, apologies.Out of curiousity, why is it too late for the police to trigger another SJPN? Is it because 6 months have passed since the offence, and the £100 I paid for the COFP has not been refunded as yet?

Quote from: 666 on 02 Jan, 2025 10:564. For the first offence, proceedings would need to have begun by 16th December. It's anyone's guess whether that happened: there may be a nasty surprise delayed in the Xmas post.Thank you user 666. One question about point 4, you say that proceedings would have begun by 16th December.I have dug through old documents and found the FPN I received for the first offence (which I received nothing for), along with the form I was supposed to send in. Will it help at all if I send it in now?Or, is it possible that nothing has happened for the first offence on 16th June, and me sending in my licence information will only trigger another SJPN?

I often rent cars with ZipCar to drive in London. In June 2024, I received two back to back Notices of Intended Prosecution for speeding:

• 16-Jun: Driving 25mph in a 20mph zone
• 23-Jun: Driving 47mpg in a 40mph zone

These notices both state "Please provide your license number" etc., which I did. They also state "Please DO NOT send in your licence or a copy if issued by DVLA". My licence is issued by DVLA in the UK, so I did not send anything.I filled out the form and paid both of the £100 notices promptly in July as soon as I got them. However, I missed the part of the FPN that asks for licence details, mistakenly assuming that paying the fine was all that was needed.I have just received a Single Justice Procedure Notice for the second offence (23-Jun, driving 47mph in a 40mph). The witness statement within this notice (from the Camera Processing Caseworker) states:Quote"The driver failed to satisfy the requirements of the Fixed Penalty, the Fixed Penalty was paid but they failed to provide their licence details for electronic endorsement and a refund was requested.The driver did not satisfy the requirements of the Fixed Penalty offer within the specified timeframe. As a result, the offer of a Fixed Penalty has been withdrawn.The matter was therefore referred to the Prosecution Team for a Single Justice Notice to be issued."I correctly filled in my licence number in the Section 172 Statement with the Notice of Intended Prosecution I received. I also never requested a refund of my payment.The Single Justice Procedure notice I have received asks me how I plead and whether I want to come to court.What are my next steps here? Specifically, the questions I have are:

• Should I go to court to explain this, or simply plead guilty to the administrative screwup?
• What is the expected penalty for this? I have no previous convictions of any form
• How long will this remain on my record and will it affect future employment?
• Will I receive a second Single Justice Procedure notice for the first speeding offence?

Any advice is much appreciated, thank you!