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Hello, What was the result of your appeal? I'm going through exactly the same situation after receiving a PCN for turning into Crownhill Road.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lb-brent-53j-failing-to-comply-with-a-restriction-on-vehicles-entering-a-pedestr/msg93197/#msg93197

EDIT - by John U.K. I've added the link to your own thread.

Waste of my time!

Thank you all for the replies above. As I need to submit evidence to the Tribunal ahead of my hearing next week, I was wondering if it is worth submiting photos / footage from different vantage points to highlight the bad sign placement? Brent have overdone it with multiple signs for no right turn and no entry in the immediate surrounding area, and the school signs are unobtrusive to drivers. The pictures they submitted for evidence were taken close up and on foot directly in front of the sign on the pavement and on the opposite pedestrian side of Manor Pk Road.

I can only see their Case Summary, where's the rest?

As regards the contravention, and assuming the prohibition exists, then the issue is one of signage. Your video shows the sign and GSV shows no sign, just where one might be if unfolded. But what does their photographic evidence show?

In the absence of any objective facts as to why, that driver did not see the advance sign is unlikely IMO to convince an adjudicator that there has been a regulatory failure on the part of the authority.

What does GSV stand for?

Photographic evidence shows a blown up camera shot taken on the opposite side of the road on the pavement where you walk!
The sign placement, is very poor as evidenced in their phorographic evidence. The advance sign on manor Pk Rd, is about 300 yds before Crownhill Rd and can be easily obscured by a passing or parked high sided vehicle. I was in the car (not driving) and the advance sign was not visible on the day that alledged contravention occured.

This School Street is a cash cow for Brent, as are the other School Streets in Brent with inadequate sinage.

  For some reason the notification for your replies went to my Spam box so only just seen, sorry for delayed reply (been very unwell)

https://imgur.com/a/CD2aprg

Thank you and will do.

When did you submit your representations ?

This thread shows that you were about to submit them in mid-January. There is no time limit in the LLA & TfL Act 2003 for responses to reps against a postal PCN, but there is a 56 day limit in the TMA 2004 for formal reps against an NtO or a postal PCN.  Whilst there is no limit in the 2003 Act, one could argue that the limit in the TMA 2004 is clearly intended to prevent councils procrastinating and causing unfairness by their dilatoriness, and the same principal should apply to your case. Clearly their response is well over 56 days and you could argue this has caused unfairness to you when preparing an appeal to London Tribunals, as your memory has faded with time, and documents you may need at an adjudication may have got lost during the excessive time to respond.

Of course, there is no gurantee this approach will succeed at London Tribunals, but at least it would receive consideration. As you are probably aware by now, councils ruthlessly game the system to maximise their income. Are you happy to let them continue to do so ? 

I submitted representations to Brent as advised on 16.01.2025.  I received the NOR on 08.04.2025, I have not received any other correspondence from Brent.

@Incandescent Appreciate the reply above, but it went over my head. I am not familiar with TMA 2004 or how I shoud respond to NOR? Do I now appeal to London Tribunals with a statement in order to secure a Tribunal Hearing date and then submit further evidence later?

I finally received a reply from Brent a few days ago (took more than a week from date of NOR to arrive).

Please can one of the moderators make my posts editable so I can remove previous duplicates?

On page two of NOR the officer states that there are various advanced signs surrounding the areas warning drivers of the restriction zone times. There is only ONE advance sign on the one way approach road we took. The other signs are well after the left turn into Crownhill Road, far too late to avoid the roads in question.

At the time of the alleged contravention we remember there being a high-sided white van parked on our left, most likely why we never saw the ONLY sign on Manor Park Rd. The other signs are perpendicular to Manor Park, only clearly visible if you are appraoching directly head on; you cannot see them because there are perperdicular to Manor Park Rd. 

Can someone advise for an appeal?

Thank you.

https://imgur.com/a/ihfvBe8

Hi,
I first posted 2 weeks ago and have run out of time to make representations. Can anyone help me as I don't want to say anything that will jeopardise my case?