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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: April 29, 2025, 03:25:47 pm »
I was concerned that the letter from Havering Council to the hire (leasing) company says they (as vehicle owner) are legally responsible and shouldn't pass on the PCN to the person driving the vehicle, and at the same time the amount payable is being increased as time goes on.

I was also worried I had perhaps interfered with the correct process since I submitted an appeal directly to Havering at the start of the process before any Penalty notification was transferred to my name.

If the Penalty notification to the leasing company is cancelled and a new one issued in my name presumably that will mean the whole process is reset to start and I will need to resubmit an initial appeal to HAvering?

Thanks again for all guidance on this.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: April 26, 2025, 04:20:58 pm »
Has been a little while since any communication to report. I did contact the leasing company a while back to ask for transfer of liability but got no response.

Have just received an email from leasing company with two attachments uploaded at the following links (I have removed personal info and references from the uploads):

Havering Letter:
https://imgur.com/a/h93deRj [page 01]
https://imgur.com/a/2v41rl7 [page 02]
https://imgur.com/a/1aedjQa [page 03]
https://imgur.com/a/PY9mO7y [page 04]

Leasing Company letter:
https://imgur.com/a/5tZZ7Sw [page 01]
https://imgur.com/a/rIrqmhn [page 02]

The letter from Havering to the leasing company is dated 14/04/2025 and the letter from the leasing company to me is dated 26/04/2025, so the 28 day deadline to respond has been eaten into a little.

The letter from the leasing company states the following:

"We have given your details to the relevant issuer transferring liability of this parking charge notice to you. The issuer will now contact you directly."

Although the leasing company letter states that they "have attached a Third Party Authorisation letter", they did not include any such authorisation letter in their email.

There doesn't seem to be much time remaining to appeal, but am slightly confused if I am able to do so without a third party authorisation letter.

I would be very grateful for further advice on how to proceed from here.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: March 12, 2025, 09:44:06 pm »
Slight senior moment on my part, my wife is not the registered keeper of the car which I indicated in a previous post. The car is leased so the registered keeper is the leasing company. When I submitted the appeal to the council on 04 Feb 2025 I did so in my own name.
I have just had an email from the council rejecting my initial appeal. The rejection letter is at the following links:

https://imgur.com/a/K2jXda9
https://imgur.com/a/zZIE9dx

Would appreciate advice on how to proceed from here.

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN issued more than 14 days from event
« on: March 11, 2025, 11:49:00 am »
Just had response from POPLA. Had to read it a few times to be sure but looks like a success.

"The operator has contacted us and told us that they have withdrawn your appeal.

If you have already paid your parking charge, this is the reason your appeal will have been withdrawn. Unfortunately, you cannot pay your parking charge and appeal, which means that POPLA’s involvement in your appeal has ended. You will not be able to request a refund of the amount paid in order to resubmit your appeal to us.

If you have not paid your parking charge, the operator has reviewed your appeal and chosen to cancel the parking charge. As the operator has withdrawn your appeal, POPLA’s involvement has now ended and you do not need to take any further action.

Kind regards

POPLA Team"


Massive thanks to all who helped me out with this. Much appreciated 👍


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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN issued more than 14 days from event
« on: March 04, 2025, 02:29:54 pm »
I submitted the appeal on popla a week or so back with the wording provided above.

I have today received a further email from Britannia Parking with the following:

"Good Afternoon,

Further to you email, we raised your email to DCBL's legal department and they have responded with the following - "if it's non-POFA and they haven't nominated a Driver, we can pursue on the balance of probabilities that if they were not the Driver, they would inform the client who was."
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I can see that you have raised a POPLA case, therefore, your next step is to wait for their outcome.

Regards
Amey Richardson
Compliance Manager
Britannia Parking"


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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN issued more than 14 days from event
« on: February 11, 2025, 08:41:12 pm »
Thanks for that, much appreciated.

I have blanked out personal details from the rejection letter and uploaded pages at the following links

https://imgur.com/a/jiTBLax - page 1
https://imgur.com/a/ZGOUY4n - page 2
https://imgur.com/a/n0Lsvcw - page 3
https://imgur.com/a/3ky3fSK - page 4
https://imgur.com/a/cuhW1xY - page 5
https://imgur.com/a/52TIWaJ - page 6

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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN issued more than 14 days from event
« on: February 11, 2025, 08:22:08 pm »
Just received a reply from Britannia Parking. They have rejected the appeal and gone to a lot of trouble to include maps, images of signage and full photos of entry and exit.
They have provided a POPLA verification code : [Removed by mod]


Pages of the rejection letter are at the following links

[Removed by mod]

Would appreciate advice on progressing to POPLA appeal stage. Presumably there is no risk that the appeal will not be successful since the original PCN was not issued within 14 days of the alleged infringement?

Thanks

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 05, 2025, 02:37:31 pm »
My wife is the registered keeper of the vehicle.
Does this affect how things proceed from here?
From earlier posts on this thread I had expected that the initial appeal would be rejected routinely by the council. Should this happen then should further appeals be in her name?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 04, 2025, 09:25:58 pm »
Appeal submitted.

Many thanks to all that have provided guidance to prepare the appeal, much appreciated.


Informal Challenge Form
Thank you for your correspondence, your reference number is: W20768396

Please keep this for your records, you will receive a response to your correspondence by post or email, within 56 working days.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 04, 2025, 07:21:00 pm »
In the first image the suspension sign is attached to a lamp post (can identify it and from comparison to Google street view as the post is white colour) which has a "no loading" sign. So this suspension notice is not attached to the regulatory "disabled bay" sign. Not sure if this weakens the appeal at all. Certainly as noted above, the first disabled bay sign (which is in front of the vehicle) does not have a suspension sign attached.


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 04, 2025, 05:04:06 pm »
Ok, thanks. I have submitted the following query:

"photographs taken by the CEO when issuing the PCN have not been made available. Please provide copies of these photographs."

Received an email confirming receipt of query with the following message:

"Your reference number is F684723584.

Thank you for submitting LBH Parking PCN Online enquiry form."

I'll update post once I receive a reply

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 04, 2025, 04:44:07 pm »
Is that pictures of the signage that were put in place during the suspension, or pictures taken by the warden related to the specific PCN?
Do they need to publish the pictures on a specific web page?
I just want to make sure I'm asking them the right question. Do I need to refer to the PCN number in my request?
Would they typically respond quickly to such requests?

Thanks all

Also a bit of a concern that

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 03, 2025, 11:43:30 pm »
Thanks all for your responses, much appreciated.
Copy of the rear of the PCN is at the following link:

https://imgur.com/a/pQBouVI


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 03, 2025, 09:53:08 pm »
Definitely wasn't a suspension notice on the post adjacent to bay number 2. (Annotated photo shows this post close to a square brown manhole cover in pavement).
https://imgur.com/a/tiIPbMg
Can see same manhole cover on Google street view to confirm that this is definitely the post adjacent to bay number 2

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering, Parking in a suspended bay - Branfill Road, Upminster
« on: February 03, 2025, 09:35:37 pm »
My argument, which is the one that I put to the warden at the time, is that where suspension signs had been fitted, they were obscured from view by the roadworks signs. They simply were not clearly visible.

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