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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: February 14, 2026, 12:04:40 am »
FYI I sent this at 23:59 ..

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Dear Sirs,

Your Letter of Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.


As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.


The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.


Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.


I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter of Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:


A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability.


A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations.


The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.


The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.


A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT.


I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).


If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).


Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.


Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.


Yours faithfully,
[My name]

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: February 13, 2026, 01:54:00 pm »
sorry to be a pain, I will do a search of the forum to see what people have done before but bumping the thread just in case

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: February 12, 2026, 07:24:07 pm »
Hi, I think I need to reply to DCB Legal by tomorrow. Any advice?

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: February 12, 2026, 01:56:31 am »
Hello I think this is approaching the "within 30 days of the date of this letter"

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Private parking tickets / Re: APCOA Parking Charge - Luton Airport
« on: February 09, 2026, 12:39:55 pm »
cancelled by APCOA on 1 Feb, thanks!

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I received a letter of claim from dcb legal, attached.




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Private parking tickets / APCOA Parking Charge - Luton Airport
« on: January 20, 2026, 04:19:23 am »
As the registered keeper I have received this parking charge.





Is it still okay to use this template?

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I am the registered keeper. APCOA cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because Luton Airport is not 'relevant land'.

If Luton Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for APCOA’s own profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Thanks

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: December 25, 2025, 06:24:41 pm »
You only need to send a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) to the Data Protection Officer (DPO) at NPC. In the DRN you simply instruct them to update your current address for service and to erase any other addresses they may hold for you. The highlighted words are there for a reason, so use them.

Ignore any useless debt collector. You only need to instruct the creditor, which is NPC.

Hi,

Firstly, Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays!

I missed this post, but received a letter last week from dcbl which seems to fall in the useless debt collector category. They say they wrote to a different address but did not receive a response.  Odd since my royal mail redirect is still active until 17 Jan. They also say this case is not subject to High Court or bailiff action.

I have attached the letter just in case but will just ignore it as advised in other threads.

Do I still need to send the DRN to the DPO at NPC?

Thanks



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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: December 03, 2025, 12:50:03 pm »
Thank you! The only thing I am worried about is any debt collection letters not coming to this address because I sold the car and also moved home and my royal mail forwarding is due to expire mid-Jan. I changed my V5C/license in good time after moving (but it's for a different car now). Is it worth extending the mail forwarding? I got bit by this once before when I had no redirect and I forgot about updating my V5C

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: December 01, 2025, 06:50:46 am »
This was the IAS decision on 26 October and I have heard nothing since...

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The Appellant should understand that the Adjudicator is not in a position to give legal advice to either of the parties but they are entitled to seek their own independent legal advice. The Adjudicator's role is to consider whether or not the parking charge has a basis in law and was properly issued in the circumstances of each individual case. In all Appeals the Adjudicator is bound by the relevant law applicable at the time and is only able to consider legal challenges and not factual mistakes nor extenuating or mitigating circumstances. Throughout this appeal the Operator has had the opportunity consider all points raised and could have conceded the appeal at any stage. The Adjudicator who deals with this Appeal is legally qualified and each case is dealt with according to their understanding of the law as it applies and the legal principles involved. A decision by an Adjudicator is not legally binding on an Appellant who is entitled to seek their own legal advice if they so wish.
The signage at this site is prominent, clear and unequivocal in its terms; this is private land where payment must be made to park.
The Appellant failed to pay for parking on this date. The evidence submitted shows previous payments for parking here on earlier dates, showing that the Appellant was aware that payment was required.
Having considered all the relevant issues raised, I am satisfied that the Appellant failed to pay for parking, the Appellant was aware that payment was required, and the operator has established that the Parking Charge was properly issued in accordance with the law.
This appeal therefore has to be dismissed.

It's been a while now, do these sometimes just fizzle out?

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I now have received:

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Dear H,

Your timeframe to respond to the operator regarding the PCN detailed below has now expired. The contents of the appeal has been passed onto the adjudicator for their decision.

Parking Charge Number (PCN): ANPR283097
Vehicle Registration: ST61RZJ

What typically happens next?

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They have replied with:

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The operator made their response on 02/10/2025 17:38:55.

The appellant was captured entering the car park at 11:46:27 and captured leaving at 12:05:25.

The Vehicle in question was parked in the car park without paying for their duration of stay. The screenshot uploaded shows the vehicle did not pay for their duration of stay.

There is pay by phone, cash, card and contactless available for payments.

We acknowledge the appellant's evidence they have submitted, they have paid for another site, enforced by Liverpool City Council rather than National Parking Control.

The RingGo code used for this site is displayed on our signage, throughout the site, please see images of signage attached.

Should a motorist still feel unsure, they can contact us directly on the number displayed on our signage.

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: September 25, 2025, 05:46:14 pm »
Thank you I have sent the response and additional evidence.

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: September 25, 2025, 04:20:16 pm »
Thanks for this. Should I leave the reference id and receipt number in the paybyphone receipt screenshot? I am asking because I am not sure if they have avenues to link that to a payer and if so whether that even matters.

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Private parking tickets / Re: NPC Parking Charge - Myrtle Parade, Liverpool
« on: September 21, 2025, 06:28:58 pm »
Hello the operator has made their prima facie case against my IAS appeal. I have until 25/09/25 23:59 to make representations or refer the case to arbitration.



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Operator's Prima Facie Case
The operator made their Prima Facie Case on 18/09/2025 12:00:57.
The operator reported that...
The appellant was the driver.
The appellant was the keeper.
The operator is seeking keeper liability in accordance with PoFA..
ANPR/CCTV was used.
The Notice to Keeper was sent on 23/07/2025.
A response was received from the Notice to Keeper.
The ticket was issued on 23/07/2025.
The Notice to Keeper (ANPR) was sent in accordance with PoFA.
The charge is based in Contract.

The operator made the following comments...
The appellant was captured entering the car park at 11:46 and captured leaving at 12:05.

The Vehicle in question was parked in the car park without paying for their duration of stay. The screenshot uploaded shows the vehicle did not pay for their duration of stay.

There is pay by phone, cash, card and contactless available for payments.

The signage throughout is clear that you must pay for the whole duration of your stay.

In regards to the comments made by the appellant, please see photos of the signage on site, the NTK, the ANPR log and other payments made by other motorists at the time of the contravention.

Here are their uploaded documents


ANPR











Payment Logs



Signs




Screenshot of preloaded documents



Notice to Keeper




Please let me know if you need me to upload the preloaded documents (site map / sign info etc.)

Thanks,

H

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