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Hi all,

Does anyone have any further input on this?

How can I challenge the fact that the NTO was not lawfully served?

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They had no grounds and no evidence to prove the contrary...

"My decision  A vehicle can only be parked in an electric bay whilst charging and the vehicle must be moved as soon as the process is finished. I have reconsidered the circumstances and confirm that the PCN has been cancelled on this occasion"

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Hi all,

I just wanted to share with you that the council has cancelled the PCN on this occasion. Thanks again for your continued assistance!

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Hi HC Andersen,

I hope you are well.

Just checking to see if you had any further comments.. I wanted to understand If I and how I can challenge this PCN. Thanks.

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Hi all,

Just checking to see if you think I can proceed on this basis. Thanks!

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Hey Hippocrates

So to confirm: I should challenge both PCNs by simply including the arguments you shared below. I do not need to instruct the Council to “cancel one automatically”, as the point is already made by explaining that the two PCNs arise from the same continuous sequence of events only one minute apart. Likewise, I do not need to separately state that the Fulham 10k road closures made it impossible to use alternative routes?

To whom it may concern,

The PCN fails to include mandatory information required by para. 4(8) of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted

The Act requires the PCN to state:

at 4(8)(iii): that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice; and

at 4(8)(v): that if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of that 28-day period, an increased charge may be payable.

Your PCN instead states:

“If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £240 may be payable.”

This wording is defective because:

It substitutes the statutory definition (“date of notice”) with an entirely different one (“date of service”).

The mandatory statutory wording is omitted from the PCN. Your substituted wording only adds to the lack of clarity caused by this omission. Even taken on its own terms, the statement is defective because it conflates two separate statutory periods by using the word “or”, which many would interpret conjunctively. Even if interpreted disjunctively, the statement still fails to provide clarity because the required statutory information is missing. It follows that the notice cannot possibly be interpreted correctly and therefore does not comply with Section 4(8) of the 2003 Act.

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I checked again too.. unfortunately both the CCTV images and PCN's display the correct date 16 November

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Hi HC Andersen,

Thanks for your response.

Just to make sure I understand correctly... is the issue here that the NTO was not lawfully served, since it was sent to the wrong address (i.e. not the one of the person who appears to have been the owner of the vehicle when the contravention occurred) So this NTO is not valid even though it was addressed to correct person but sent to a wrong address?

Does this count as a procedural impropriety that can be used to challenge the PCN? How should this be raised?

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Hi Incandescent,

Thanks for the reply. The image of the front of the two PCN's can be viewed here: https://imgpile.com/p/2AXB113

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I received two PCNs from Hammersmith & Fulham Council for the same alleged contravention (52M – failing to comply with a prohibition on motor vehicles) on Sunday 16 November 2025, at 10:23 and 10:24, on CANW Peterborough Rd S/B, and CANW Clancarty Rd N/B. These locations are about one minute apart.

This was the morning of the Fulham 10k, a large road-closure event. While driving, I became trapped inside the closure area and was trying to exit. Various roads were unexpectedly blocked. I did not intend to enter any restricted streets, I was simply trying to escape the event closures.

Both PCNs appear to arise from the same continuous situation, just a minute apart.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

PCN: HZ95348988 & HZ95339273

The link to the images:

https://imgpile.com/p/2AXB113


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Hi H C Andresen,

To clarify,

The NTO has been sent to the address of the new registered keeper but it displays the name of the previous registered keeper. Hence, the address on the NTO is not the one held by DVLA at the time of the contravention but the address of the new registered keeper who purchased the car in the meantime. Hope this makes sense.

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Hi Stamfordman,

Thanks for the reply. The NTO is not in the purchasers name, but the name of the driver/previous registered keeper (the one who committed the contravention). Does this change anything? Thanks.

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Hi All,

So the Notice to Owner has finally been received - I have uploaded the letter here: https://imgpile.com/p/rWiYeUB

I should point out that the vehicle has been sold in the meantime. The Notice to Owner has been sent to the purchasers address. Also for some reason imgpile will not let me upload one of the letters pages detailing the HOW TO PAY and HOW TO CHALLENGE sections.

Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

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Hi stamfordman,

Thanks, understood. roundel is indeed present: it’s the standard blue circle with the red X above the wording “No stopping”.

What I am trying to understand now is whether the dual-use arrangement is signed correctly, because the order from April 2024 says this location was converted into a dual-use goods vehicle loading bay / taxi rank:

Taxi rank (no stopping) from midnight–8:30am and 6:30pm–midnight (Mon–Sat)

Goods vehicle loading bay during 8:30am–6:30pm (Mon–Sat)

At the time of the alleged contravention (20:47), the taxi-rank restriction would be in force, so I understand that point.

However, on the ground the original “Loading Only” legend is still clearly visible beneath overpaint. Westminster’s notice suggests a formal conversion, but the surface markings on site still show the previous designation.

Could this discrepancy affect the adequacy of signage, given that drivers are expected to understand the restriction from both elements?

Would appreciate your view on whether this inconsistency could amount to a challenge.

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