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Hello all

The letter arrived today - the penalty has been cancelled! There was no explanation or a reason given, just that it had been investigated and it was decided to be cancelled.

Hopefully others will find the same!

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Draft:

I received a call on the morning of Saturday 21 June to say that my sister XXXXX was seriously ill at the XXXX Hospital in XXXX. My daughter drove me, using sat nav because we didn't know the way, to be at her side but XXXXX died at 5pm on the evening of 21 June.

I have never driven through the Blackwell Tunnel before and did not realise there was a charge to pay. I don't recall seeing any signs. I have since discovered that because I have a Blue Badge (attached) I should not have to pay anyway. My daughter has set up the Blue Badge discount for me so that this does not happen again.

Please could you make an exception at this time as it's very stressful with her passing already and being with her when she died meant the world to me and my family. I don't normally travel outside my area due to having [disability] so this was an extraordinary journey.
I think I may have received a fine for the journey going from south to north in the morning around 10am but that hasn't arrived in the post yet.
My family are trying to come to terms with the death and would appreciate you being kind in this matter.
Yours faithfully,

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Hi all

I gather there haven't been many fines posted here for the Blackwall Tunnel/Silvertown payment so I'm posting this one on the off chance it helps someone in the future.

We received the fine this week YJ74765923 for not paying the fine on the north going south journey, although we also went south to north on the same morning of Saturday 21 June 2025.

I was driving for my Mum who got the call that her sister had had a stroke the night before and we were all called to her bedside. She died at 5pm that day. My Mum also has a disabled sticker so shouldn't pay anyway (I know that now I've done some research!) so I am going to appeal and see if they are lenient. I've already registered her Blue Badge and car so I hope that will help as well.

I'm hoping if I appeal one of the fines, that before the other one arrives in the post, they will be able to deal with both. I will let everyone on here know what they say.

BTW, this fine was issued on 28 June but didn't arrive until 5 July so I'm guessing Royal Mail's delay has taken a week out of the possible appeal time!

Thanks,

Fuzzy

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A great result Mr Mustard, and my thanks again for winning for us!

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Thanks StanfordMan, I have emailed Mr Mustard with the details after all, much easier to let the experts take over!

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Thanks for your help on this case.

I have just logged on in order to go to the London Tribunals. It is asking me my reason for appealing.

Do I state the procedural errors (as detailed by Andersen above) only, or do I also include the lack of signage too which we ascertained in the first appeal?  Do I have to hedge my bets in these cases?

Thank you,

FR

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Hi MrMustard
I'm happy to go to tribunal myself, as long as I know what I'm saying?

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All images...

https://imgur.com/a/EDvVneO

Apologies if I'm missing anything, I will try and put it right.  All help much appreciated.

FR

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My files seem to be too large so I'll post the full appeal here...


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Thanks Andersen, and from what I've seen I agree that the scrutineering here is first class. Coming from an industry which does not, I appreciate that this is not the type of work I am used to.

Spoiler: I work for a council. Just not in the same department!

Here they are...

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4 pages in the foothills and then the enforcement process was given to you as a link and you were asked to wait for the NTO before posting again.

Then radio silence until your last post.

Post the full Notice of Rejection and NTO.

OK, a little harsh as this clearly isn't my day job and the last thing I wanted to do was upset anyone, but here's the NTO.


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Hi Stamfordman

I replied to the Notice to Owner with what had been said on her previously. Sorry, I took heed of the advice earlier in this thread to not clog up too much of this board with the ins and outs.  Is there something different I should have done at that stage then?

I'm happy to go to tribunal, just not sure how to word it if that letter was their response. I presumed that someone different would read my latest appeal have have the foresight to see that it isn't legal to give me a ticket for the reason they gave, but it reads as if it's been the same person each time?

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Did they send you a notice to owner? What is this latest letter in response to?

Sorry yes, this is the reply to the appeal I made when I received the Notice to Owner!


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Well, Bromley have replied to my appeal. Here's the letter. Spoiler: they aren't cancelling the PCN.

I will make representation. Any advice helpful!

Ringgitt


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They are yes. The tone of the letter makes it sound like there is no other option but to pay the fine, no mention of the NTO or what to do if you disagree with their decision.

It also stinks that they don't change the website to show that there's been an informal appeal made. I had to ask on here what happens next because the website makes it look like you have to appeal on there again because there's no update. Totally confusing.

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