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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN YJ8642801
« on: September 26, 2025, 01:12:23 pm »
Was that used in the representations? Or for the independent review?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN YJ8642801
« on: September 26, 2025, 12:35:03 pm »
Hello
Thanks for your reply.
The image link above includes the notice of rejection.
I have since set up an autopay account for the tunnel and I wish i had included that in my Representation.
I had another look at the PCN and weirdly the TFL website has allowed me to make representation again, which I have done and it states the PCN is now on hold again? Must be an error. I received a conformation email regarding this too?
Thanks
Thanks for your reply.
The image link above includes the notice of rejection.
I have since set up an autopay account for the tunnel and I wish i had included that in my Representation.
I had another look at the PCN and weirdly the TFL website has allowed me to make representation again, which I have done and it states the PCN is now on hold again? Must be an error. I received a conformation email regarding this too?
Thanks
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / TFL: BLACKWELL and SILVERTOWN TUNNEL Non paymemt: PCN YJ8642801
« on: September 18, 2025, 03:04:42 pm »
Hello.
I used the Blakwell and Silvertown Tunnel on the way back from Folkstone Eurotunnel and didn't pay the charge. It was a genuine mistake as I haven't used the tunnel for at least 10, if not more, and then is was free. The charges have only been in place since April this year and I would have paid if I was aware, I missed the signs (not a good excuse I know)
I have already sent a letter based on a thread I saw here, but it has been rejected and the fine is £90, which is very high and something I really cant afford right now so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll post all correspondence below. Thanks in advance.
PCN and REPRESENTATION RESPONSE from TFL:
https://ibb.co/prrnGnKN
MY RESPONSE TO PCN:
Dear Sir/Madam
I recently received a Penalty Charge Notice for using the Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel YJ8642801. This came as a complete surprise, as I wasn’t aware the tunnels are now subject to a charge. I didn't notice any signs on the day and would have paid the fee had I realised it was required.
From what I’ve read, this is a new scheme and I understand there may have been a period where warnings were issued instead of fines. Unfortunately, I didn’t receive any such warning and this was my first time using the tunnel since the new charge began. I was returning from holiday and I normally use the Dartford Crossing but on this occasion, there were traffic issues and I was redirected to the Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel.
I’m kindly asking if you’d consider cancelling the PCN on this occasion. I am happy to pay the fee for using the tunnel, which I would have done on the day if I had been aware this was required.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I’d really appreciate your understanding.
Kind regards
I used the Blakwell and Silvertown Tunnel on the way back from Folkstone Eurotunnel and didn't pay the charge. It was a genuine mistake as I haven't used the tunnel for at least 10, if not more, and then is was free. The charges have only been in place since April this year and I would have paid if I was aware, I missed the signs (not a good excuse I know)
I have already sent a letter based on a thread I saw here, but it has been rejected and the fine is £90, which is very high and something I really cant afford right now so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll post all correspondence below. Thanks in advance.
PCN and REPRESENTATION RESPONSE from TFL:
https://ibb.co/prrnGnKN
MY RESPONSE TO PCN:
Dear Sir/Madam
I recently received a Penalty Charge Notice for using the Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel YJ8642801. This came as a complete surprise, as I wasn’t aware the tunnels are now subject to a charge. I didn't notice any signs on the day and would have paid the fee had I realised it was required.
From what I’ve read, this is a new scheme and I understand there may have been a period where warnings were issued instead of fines. Unfortunately, I didn’t receive any such warning and this was my first time using the tunnel since the new charge began. I was returning from holiday and I normally use the Dartford Crossing but on this occasion, there were traffic issues and I was redirected to the Blackwall or Silvertown Tunnel.
I’m kindly asking if you’d consider cancelling the PCN on this occasion. I am happy to pay the fee for using the tunnel, which I would have done on the day if I had been aware this was required.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I’d really appreciate your understanding.
Kind regards
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: March 15, 2025, 04:03:07 pm »5
Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: February 04, 2025, 05:26:47 pm »
Hi, can you clarify what you mean, they do seem to have teh TMO on their website.
Thanks
Thanks
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: January 31, 2025, 01:24:51 pm »
Do they mean where they have added the location in text in the top of the images?
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: January 31, 2025, 11:33:47 am »8
Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: January 29, 2025, 11:45:47 am »
Hello, I have received the following reply and attachments from my FAO request:
Sent on behalf of Ann Cunningham – Head of Highways & Parking
Dear ....
Re: Freedom of Information Act Request ref: LBH/16215525
Thank you for your request for information received on 09 January 2025, in which you asked for the following:
Please advise where and how this was signed during the period 11-14 Oct. 2024 in Wellfield Ave. N10. Given that the enforcement of the order is subject to the number, siting and wording of 'traffic signs', then the council would have made a point of ensuring that (and recording) the specific locations and methods e.g. on lamppost 10 or on tree o/s no. 27 etc. were consistent with their regulatory duty.
I also require a copy of the council decision which made the order.
My response is as follows:
The suspensions in Wellfield Avenue were required for gully drain cleaning to help reduce flooding which falls within the maintenance remit of the borough wide temporary order. Site notices were displayed within the designated road on. Attached is a copy of the temporary traffic management order which was produced to cover all maintenance works within the borough and the public notice that was on display at the time of the restrictions. This order came in to force on 19th September 2024 and is enforceable for up to 18 months.
The signs were erected 5th October 2024, to give residents and motorists sufficient warning of the upcoming restrictions ahead. Attached are the images of the signs which include the date, time and location of the signs.
If you are unhappy with how we have responded to your request you can ask us to conduct an Internal Review. If so, please contact the Feedback & Resolutions Team. (Please note you should do so within two months of this response.)
Yours sincerely,
Ann Cunningham
Head of Service, Highways & Parking
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Heres are the attachments:
https://ibb.co/album/xFj0Pp
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Thanks in advance
Sent on behalf of Ann Cunningham – Head of Highways & Parking
Dear ....
Re: Freedom of Information Act Request ref: LBH/16215525
Thank you for your request for information received on 09 January 2025, in which you asked for the following:
Please advise where and how this was signed during the period 11-14 Oct. 2024 in Wellfield Ave. N10. Given that the enforcement of the order is subject to the number, siting and wording of 'traffic signs', then the council would have made a point of ensuring that (and recording) the specific locations and methods e.g. on lamppost 10 or on tree o/s no. 27 etc. were consistent with their regulatory duty.
I also require a copy of the council decision which made the order.
My response is as follows:
The suspensions in Wellfield Avenue were required for gully drain cleaning to help reduce flooding which falls within the maintenance remit of the borough wide temporary order. Site notices were displayed within the designated road on. Attached is a copy of the temporary traffic management order which was produced to cover all maintenance works within the borough and the public notice that was on display at the time of the restrictions. This order came in to force on 19th September 2024 and is enforceable for up to 18 months.
The signs were erected 5th October 2024, to give residents and motorists sufficient warning of the upcoming restrictions ahead. Attached are the images of the signs which include the date, time and location of the signs.
If you are unhappy with how we have responded to your request you can ask us to conduct an Internal Review. If so, please contact the Feedback & Resolutions Team. (Please note you should do so within two months of this response.)
Yours sincerely,
Ann Cunningham
Head of Service, Highways & Parking
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Heres are the attachments:
https://ibb.co/album/xFj0Pp
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Thanks in advance
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: January 09, 2025, 09:16:39 pm »
Hi
Oh Ok, my mistake.
I'll do that now
Thanks
Oh Ok, my mistake.
I'll do that now
Thanks
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: January 09, 2025, 08:34:46 pm »
Hello:
We replied to to Haringey council as advised with the following:
Dear Mrs Butt
Thank you for your letter dated 15th November 2024.
As regards the TMO please advise where and how this was signed during the period 11-14 Oct. 2024 in Wellfield Ave. N10. Given that the enforcement of the order is subject to the number, siting and wording of 'traffic signs', then the council would have made a point of ensuring that (and recording) the specific locations and methods e.g. on lamppost 10 or on tree o/s no. 27 etc. were consistent with their regulatory duty.
I also require a copy of the council decision which made the order.
Kind regards
------------------------------------------------------and have just received the following response:
https://ibb.co/rfVv80m
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
We replied to to Haringey council as advised with the following:
Dear Mrs Butt
Thank you for your letter dated 15th November 2024.
As regards the TMO please advise where and how this was signed during the period 11-14 Oct. 2024 in Wellfield Ave. N10. Given that the enforcement of the order is subject to the number, siting and wording of 'traffic signs', then the council would have made a point of ensuring that (and recording) the specific locations and methods e.g. on lamppost 10 or on tree o/s no. 27 etc. were consistent with their regulatory duty.
I also require a copy of the council decision which made the order.
Kind regards
------------------------------------------------------and have just received the following response:
https://ibb.co/rfVv80m
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey, code 02 parked loading/unloading restricted street, Green Lanes N4
« on: December 23, 2024, 01:19:48 pm »
Success! PCN cancelled.
I challenged the PCN as advised by H C Andersen, and received this reply today:
Thank you for writing to us.
Although your PCN was correctly issued, we have cancelled it on this occasion.
You were parked where there are yellow stripes on the kerb and white 'No loading' signs. The kerb
stripes mean you are not allowed to park – even to load or unload – at certain times. A double kerb
stripe means the rule applies 24 hours a day. A single kerb stripe, as in your case, means the rule
applies some of the time (the sign shows the times). If no days are shown on the sign, the rule applies
seven days a week. You were issued a PCN for parking at a time when the rule applies. The purpose
of this rule is to improve traffic flow and safety at busy times.
The 10 minutes statutory observation grace period only applies, when the vehicle was first legally
parked or where permitted parking item expires, which this case, end by 17:00 as shown on the time
clock at the location. The vehicle was parked in a loading restriction and contravening the restriction
in place.
You were parked on a loading restriction. Pay and Display tickets are not valid here at the time; it is
only usable in bays at the times stated on the signs plate.
If you get another PCN in similar circumstances, we may decide not to cancel it.
Yours sincerely
Mr Ighomrore
Parking Process Case Officer
Great early-xmas present so thank you H C Andersen, very much appreciated! Merry Christmas!!
I challenged the PCN as advised by H C Andersen, and received this reply today:
Thank you for writing to us.
Although your PCN was correctly issued, we have cancelled it on this occasion.
You were parked where there are yellow stripes on the kerb and white 'No loading' signs. The kerb
stripes mean you are not allowed to park – even to load or unload – at certain times. A double kerb
stripe means the rule applies 24 hours a day. A single kerb stripe, as in your case, means the rule
applies some of the time (the sign shows the times). If no days are shown on the sign, the rule applies
seven days a week. You were issued a PCN for parking at a time when the rule applies. The purpose
of this rule is to improve traffic flow and safety at busy times.
The 10 minutes statutory observation grace period only applies, when the vehicle was first legally
parked or where permitted parking item expires, which this case, end by 17:00 as shown on the time
clock at the location. The vehicle was parked in a loading restriction and contravening the restriction
in place.
You were parked on a loading restriction. Pay and Display tickets are not valid here at the time; it is
only usable in bays at the times stated on the signs plate.
If you get another PCN in similar circumstances, we may decide not to cancel it.
Yours sincerely
Mr Ighomrore
Parking Process Case Officer
Great early-xmas present so thank you H C Andersen, very much appreciated! Merry Christmas!!
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey, code 02 parked loading/unloading restricted street, Green Lanes N4
« on: December 10, 2024, 01:30:19 pm »
Ok great, thanks for your help much appreciated
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey, code 02 parked loading/unloading restricted street, Green Lanes N4
« on: December 10, 2024, 10:11:15 am »14
Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Haringey, code 02 parked loading/unloading restricted street, Green Lanes N4
« on: December 09, 2024, 09:54:06 pm »
Hi
I parked my car at 16:46 on Saturday 07/12/24. The parking sign stated that the restricted time ended at 17:00, so I paid for 15 mins of parking. On returning to the car I had a parking ticket. So I took photos of signs and car etc. I honestly could not understand why I had been given ticket and I thought I had complied completely with the parking restrictions, purchasing the required parking.
When I got home and studied the images I noticed at the top of the pole was another much smaller sign that is maybe the problem, stating no parking between 5-7.
If this is the case, I feel like I have walked into a trap. I was following the parking restrictions between 9am-5am, but then at the top of the pole in a much small less visible sign there is a restriction between 5-7. Surely this is too confusing and should be just as visible, same font and colour as the parking sign with the restrictions I followed.
Any help would be very much appreciated, as I genuinely feel like this is a deliberate attempt to miss lead and confuse anyone trying to park that is unfamiliar with the restrictions.
Please find below links to all relevant images.
Thanks
https://ibb.co/album/p2bTgP
I parked my car at 16:46 on Saturday 07/12/24. The parking sign stated that the restricted time ended at 17:00, so I paid for 15 mins of parking. On returning to the car I had a parking ticket. So I took photos of signs and car etc. I honestly could not understand why I had been given ticket and I thought I had complied completely with the parking restrictions, purchasing the required parking.
When I got home and studied the images I noticed at the top of the pole was another much smaller sign that is maybe the problem, stating no parking between 5-7.
If this is the case, I feel like I have walked into a trap. I was following the parking restrictions between 9am-5am, but then at the top of the pole in a much small less visible sign there is a restriction between 5-7. Surely this is too confusing and should be just as visible, same font and colour as the parking sign with the restrictions I followed.
Any help would be very much appreciated, as I genuinely feel like this is a deliberate attempt to miss lead and confuse anyone trying to park that is unfamiliar with the restrictions.
Please find below links to all relevant images.
Thanks
https://ibb.co/album/p2bTgP
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey Council, Temporary parking suspension PCN. N10, code 01(a),Parked in a restricted street.
« on: November 19, 2024, 02:21:25 pm »
It was parked at 7:30 am, the ticket was issued at 9:06am
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