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Furthermore, I have had no other letters in the post either from anyone



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Good Morning all

I have been trying to chase Havering Council for a while, sent multiple emails to them and finally got a reply back yesterday from a message which I sent back in March.

This is the reply which I received via email

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Furthermore I have been calling the TEC line and the debt is still not registered.

Any suggestions would be greatful 

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The amount outstanding as of today is £165. So it seems unlikely that the Council have sent an Order for Recovery. That would have added a £10 registration fee to the amount outstanding making it £175

Wait for the OfR. And keep an eye on the amount outstanding, that will tell you that an OfR has been sent even if it hasn't been delivered yet. You should also periodically phone the TEC (Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court) and check the status.

There is a guide to your situation on the Forum. Have a read and follow the instructions. Charge certificate cases under the Traffic Management Act 2004 - no original PCN or Notice to Owner

Thank you so much! how did you check the amount which is outstanding? Getting fed up waiting and unsure of what to do!

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Morning all, its been over a month still and I have not heard anything from the council, No letters, No calls . . Does it still take this long?

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I called the number on the letter, it was an automated voice message and it stated the following;

After receiving the Charge Certificate, ill have to wait for the order for recovery which is issues after 28 days of receiving the Charge Certificate. Then I will receive NTO.


If anyone wants to listen to the helpline, dial 01708432787

Press 1 and then 3

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Wait for a reply.

We never advise calling, because the chances of you getting trough to someone who has the authority and skills to answer complex legal questions is zero, and you'll also have zero proof of whatever they say to you during the call.

Always get things in writing!

Appreciate the info, Im just worried that the debt will be handed over to the debt recovery agents and will be chasing me up.

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You could try this:

https://havering-self.achieveservice.com/service/lbh-Parking-PCN-Online-enquiry-form

Thank you very much for your help, I've just submitted the an online reply and stated what H C Andersen instructed me to do.

Now the question is, shall I wait for a few days and call them up ? or wait for a reply back from their online form enquiry. Dealing with this has giving me so much anxiety  :(


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They've handed you victory on a plate.

IMO, write back to them and do not bother about following the procedural route..you could still do this if necessary, but let's cut to the chase.


PCN ******* 12 Nov. 2024

I refer to the above regulation 9 PCN issued to my car on 12 Nov. 2024.

I also refer you to your letter dated 9 January 2025 rejecting my informal representations.

I further refer you to your Charge Certificate issued on 18 March 2025 on the grounds that you had issued a Notice to Owner on 12 November 2024, the same day that you issued the PCN. 

For whatever reason, your notice procedures have failed and rather than wait for the Order for Recovery, Witness Statement, revocation order, NTO, formal representations and your cancellation of the PCN, either at this stage or on the subsequent direction of the adjudicator, I request that you cancel the PCN now.


Good Afternoon,

Ive just looked at the Charge Certificate and the only way to contact them is via telephone. Shall I try via the Havering.gov website or write to them? Any suggestion would be grateful

Kind regards

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Evening all.. I've been waiting for the Notice To Owner to arrive but I got this instead?
Any thoughts?

https://imgur.com/a/YTm0paY

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Evening all.. Just an update.. I got this through the post a few days ago.



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Image? What stage are you at? I am tempted to offer to represent.

Aplogies! Please see the link now. Recieved a letter stating the contravention still stands, either pay up or wait for Notice to owner

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I've finally got a reply and they have still insisted that the contravention still stands. Please see the image below

Furthermore, I constantly see cars parked in the same spot without getting tickets.

Any suggestions on what to do next?

https://imgur.com/a/Zg4m2mb

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Council have finally put the pictures up after waiting over a week





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And Havering council also know full well that the sloping part isn't included in the prohibition of parking, but serve PCNs anyway, because they know virtually all people getting a PCN then just cough-up. Yes, it's immoral, venal, and rapacious behaviour, but par for the course with council and also governmental departments these days; think of the Post Office Horizon scandal.

Thank you for confirming, I will start an appeal for it, although I do need evidence for the sloping part.
Where can I look for this information?

Kind regards

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That's not a contravention as you are just short of the fully dropped part of the footway. The sloping kerbstone doesn't count.

Havering seems to be slow about loading pics at present but they will have some.

Thank you for your reply,

Its been over a week and theres been no pics which have been uploaded. Do you have any regulations or where I can look to object the contravention.

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