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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL - 50r Performing a Prohibited Turn (no right turn), YORK ROAD / ADDINGTON STREET
« on: June 07, 2026, 03:22:23 pm »
Quote from: ryan93 on June 06, 2026, 12:16:25 pm
Ah okay, noted re foliage, so perhaps I might leave that point. Others may write a better representation, so disregard mine if it’s of no use. On page three of the PCN, what does ground three state verbatim? Just so I know whether to use the same wording point in respect to that, as I cannot see that page in your post.


Thank you i did not include in original but here’s pg 3 and 4

Page 3: https://i.ibb.co/218H4XSL/IMG-2749.jpg
Page 4: https://i.ibb.co/GfZTFqcL/IMG-2751.jpg

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL - 50r Performing a Prohibited Turn (no right turn), YORK ROAD / ADDINGTON STREET
« on: June 06, 2026, 10:55:19 am »
Sure, im happy to get the wording to appeal, thanks.

Only on the images and video, you can’t see the sign because of the foliage but when driving you will be able to see it.

Should foliage even be mentioned? Or only the fact that you cannot see any signs within the image or video.


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL - 50r Performing a Prohibited Turn (no right turn), YORK ROAD / ADDINGTON STREET
« on: June 05, 2026, 02:13:53 pm »
Ok so, i went back to the location and i was wrong. The sign that i saw is lowered, meaning you can see it, whereas on GSV it is much higher covered by the tree.

In this instance do i have a leg to stand on?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL - 50r Performing a Prohibited Turn (no right turn), YORK ROAD / ADDINGTON STREET
« on: June 03, 2026, 04:17:33 pm »
You can see the sign from another perspective which is newer.

And thanks for you suggestion, i will wait to see if anyone else can leave feedback.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / TFL - 50r Performing a Prohibited Turn (no right turn), YORK ROAD / ADDINGTON STREET
« on: June 02, 2026, 08:55:29 pm »
I don't remember doing a right turn.
However i did go back to the location and saw that the sign is covered by tree foliage.

I Did Not Make an APPEAL Yet

PCN Image Pg1 - https://i.ibb.co/JF0B9B86/IMG-2742.jpg
PCN Image Pg2 - https://i.ibb.co/ZRfTh9Hr/IMG-2743.jpg

Video - https://streamable.com/z6e5sc

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5SY8EENwQtWRpWcJ8
Street View: https://maps.app.goo.gl/VEiD5PLUka5b2zkU9

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: March 03, 2026, 05:26:34 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on March 01, 2026, 07:40:08 pm
1. An adjudicator would have problems reading the sign's times.

2. They have miscited the TSRGD: should be 2016.

3. They have miscited the alleged contravention: they have confused it with 33c - route restricted to buses and other certain vehicles only.

Hippo, can you represent me at tribunal for this?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: March 01, 2026, 02:33:28 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on February 28, 2026, 10:58:14 pm
Sherlock Holmes may be able to see what is written on the signage in the footage.

TSRGD 2002??

Buses only?

IMO theses are fatal errors.

What does this mean?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: March 01, 2026, 02:32:45 pm »
Quote from: Incandescent on February 28, 2026, 10:50:02 pm
Quote from: hirerspcn on February 28, 2026, 10:28:39 pm
Can you explain further please
This is an argument based on mitigation: -
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Unfortunately, I missed the restricted access sign. Looking back at the location, I note that there is only one sign visible at the junction.

I also note from the PCN that I entered the zone only five minutes after the restricted period began. Given that this was a minor error of timing and a first-time mistake, I would be very grateful if you could cancel the PCN on a goodwill basis.

So you admit missing the sign. Better to say that the signage is inadequate to advise of the restriction because at busy junctions drivers must pay attention to hazards and conflicting traffic meaning that only a single sign is inadequate to advise of the restriction.

You admit being only 5 minutes into the restriction and ask that this be forgiven on the basis of minor timing error and first time mistake. Best not to even mention this.


Do you think theres a chance it could be cancelled?

Has there been other cases where it was?


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: February 28, 2026, 10:28:39 pm »
Can you explain further please

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: February 28, 2026, 06:03:45 pm »
Any updates please

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: February 27, 2026, 04:33:05 am »
Is there a chance of winning at tribunal?

Is there any arguments i can use to win?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: February 26, 2026, 08:07:40 pm »
I knew they were going to reject my appeal. What would be the next step?




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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: January 21, 2026, 07:53:00 pm »
I wanted to go there today to see if I made a genuine error or my view was obstructed. In this instance should there always be 2 signs? Left and right side of the road?

I can double-check and go there sometime this week but if my view was obstructed, would I have any grounds based on this?

I have prepared a draft below for now.

___________________________________________



Draft 1:


I am writing to formally challenge this PCN and would like to ask for your consideration based on the following circumstances.

I work as a private hire driver, at the time of the alleged contravention, I was en route to collect a passenger. As a professional driver, I am very observant and careful to follow all road signage. However, at this junction, I was focused on navigating safely and checking for oncoming traffic.

Unfortunately, I missed the restricted access sign. Looking back at the location, I note that there is only one sign visible at the junction.

I also note from the PCN that I entered the zone only five minutes after the restricted period began. Given that this was a minor error of timing and a first-time mistake, I would be very grateful if you could cancel the PCN on a goodwill basis.


Kind regards,

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / City of Westminster - 53c Failing to comply with a restriction, Lower Belgrave Street
« on: January 19, 2026, 09:32:10 pm »
I don't remember what actually happened here, or how I got into this position. I have checked my trip history, and it shows that I was on the way to pick up a passenger (I am private hire driver).

Furthermore, I always use navigation to get around and may have missed this sign. Usually, even when I do follow navigation and see the flying motorbike, I stop and check the sign just to make sure I don't drive within the prohibited times. I was 5 minutes off in this instance.

There is a similar case to mine, link: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/westminster-53c-lower-belgrave-street-multiple-pcns-(5)/

But it seems the user has made their reps private on Google Drive.


PCN Image Pg1 - https://imgpile.com/p/fN11uIx
PCN Image Pg2 - https://imgpile.com/p/26YDekJ

Video: https://streamable.com/9m2v36

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/1uySj5pUahSaBNkp9
Street View: https://maps.app.goo.gl/TwjSmBMhqtrKSAoP6

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TFL - O/S 28, 30 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD SW1W
« on: December 12, 2025, 01:19:58 pm »
I have received a reply:

Notice of Acceptance

Thank you for your representation regarding the above detailed penalty charge notice (PCN).

We are pleased to inform you that following a review of the issue of the PCN, together with the circumstances and points raised, the representation has been accepted and we have cancelled the PCN.

Please note that PCNs issued in the same or similar circumstances in the future may not be cancelled.

Your sincerely,

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