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I assumed that the PCN was included with the OfR as a courtesy, I am so naive!

Now that I have paid in full, I am curious to see whether there is any way to recover any part of what I've paid

But as I said, my heart goes out to anyone who has suffered anything similar, and that would include someone like me twenty years ago

That would have been insanely destructive

Now there is no ticking time bomb, perhaps I should devote some time to resolving this properly

By the way, the car in question would probably not fetch four figures in an auction, not least because it only has a few days MOT left (twenty year old car owned outright no finance involved)

If the car is the focus of the recovery attempt, does it matter that it's in a secure garage, with shuttered entry, in a gated community, or is that irrelebvant if one of my 50 neighbours gives them acces to the garage?

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A conversation with their online chat revealed:

They posted an NoE on 30/09/24 (which I never recieved)

There is no proof of postage, no proof of delivery

There is no possibility of negotiating a payment plan

The car is at imminent risk of removal

I feel really sorry for anyone this has happened to where they don't have access to funds needed to clear the demand in full

Truly a Kafkaesque experience

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There is no evidence that they sent an NoE letter, it certainly never arrived

I only have the 'Control of Goods' demand

Once I pay I presume there is absolutely no possibility of getting anything back, because there is no way to prove a negative (that they didn't send any other letter)

So are you suggesting that I arrange a payment plan, rather than pay in full, just in case it could be shown that they did not follow process?

No I have not contacted them, as I did not want to say anything that might weaken my position

Finding out that you have a £500 fine because you missed a single letter was enough of a shock

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As I understand it, you now acknowledge that you have the PCN and OfR which presumably have your current address on them -pl confirm. If so, then you don't have grounds to have the process reset(because none of the limited grounds would apply). So your argument is the £235 enforcement fee should not be charged because you did not receive the Notice of Enforcement.

Yes, everything is addressed correctly

So is the best bet to offer to pay less Enforcement charge, in full and final settlement?

Is there any boilerplate you can recommend using?

How much time do I have? hours? days?

Thanks

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The PCN and Order for Recovery were in the same envelope, which I found and opened yesterday after receiving the Newlyn letter

Agreed, I should have seen them in July when they were sent

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The V5C is from 2021 and is correct

There are no dates on the Newlyn letter or the hand delivered envelope

https://ibb.co/rG7knjB
https://ibb.co/JpGLbBY
https://ibb.co/TmjZ1GT
https://ibb.co/KX4PFkp
https://ibb.co/M5wTdxh

Many thanks

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Today I received my first contact from Newlyn, a 'Control of Goods' demand for £515.

I had no idea whether it was some sort of scam to start with, but after digging around I've found one unopened letter from the council from July that fell behind a bookcase, and nothing else at all.

The council letter was regarding a PCN that was issued a year ago, about which I knew nothing.

The £515 appears to be made up of £205 PCN plus £310 fees.

My research suggets that the £310 is made up of £75 Compliance plus £205 Enforcement.

Is there any way to contest the Enforcement fee as I have received nothing from Newlyn other than this hand delivered letter today?

This is the location shown in the PCN photo

https://maps.app.goo.gl/C1yqLEbhDJdWPRpM6

Although I have no recolection of driving through this width restriction, I have no reason to doubt it.

I expect I saw the width restriction and not the no motor vehicles sign.

Is there anything that can be done to contest the Enforcement fee demanded by Newlyn?

Any advice welcome, much appreciated

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