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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Advice requested please: Yellow Box Violation EAST INDIA DOCK ROAD / ST LEONARDS RD
« on: November 08, 2024, 10:19:12 am »
Thank you so much for your reply.

Do I need to wait for the PCN to be reissued to me before asking TFL for the video?

Yes, thank you I have paid the hire firm an admin charge already, no way I can avoid paying that it seems!

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Advice requested please: Yellow Box Violation EAST INDIA DOCK ROAD / ST LEONARDS RD
« on: November 07, 2024, 09:16:17 pm »
I was driving a hire van when I stopped with the back of the van inside a yellow box at EAST INDIA DOCK ROAD / ST LEONARDS RD.

Currently I received from the hire company the notice of the violation and also the copy of the PCN they received (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-4MkmnLg_zlrGp5m3lo0yk0Do9Li8Sw1/view?usp=sharing), they have informed me that my details have been sent to the issuer for transfer of liability and reissue of the fine to me in my name. I have a couple of questions.

1. When the fine is re-issued in my name, will the reduced rate of fine period of 14 days be applied from when the fine is reissued to me? Must I wait to receive the fine reissued to me before I can do anything?


2. When I entered the box junction, there was sufficient road clear at the exit for me to fully leave the box junction, however after entering the junction (which is particularly large) a car ahead changed lanes to fill the empty road which would have allowed me to exit the box junction fully. So the reason I had to stop inside the yellow box junction was not because of a stationary vehicle but because by the actions of the vehicle ahead to my right which was a moving vehicle.


The evidence supplied currently is only photographic (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v6TGOQjmIFSIUVX0QCww9kt9iRgr3Wa5/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zv6NeWB_SEDnXJtyEa3OsMtBj7n7CfXe/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AZbJ0U8oClDQA0-SIOvxTYXfcG5xP-5C/view?usp=sharing), and shows the car which is 2 cars ahead stopped at an angle after changing lane last minute.

I am confident that if the council have video/CCTV footage of the incident that it will verify that this car cut across to fill that space after I already entered the box junction.

I see some examples of successful challenges to similar PCNs here https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/stolen-space-appeals.

I wanted to ask if this is good grounds to appeal, and is there a particular way that the challenge should be worded?

I would be very grateful for any advice that can be offered.

PCN: GX19414107
Plate: LC73AES

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/SRJEFeZNkhpc9K7a9

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