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Ok thanks guys, Ill do exactly that thenTurn up early, ask someone there to point me in the direction of the prosecutor, say 'hello, Im 'x'...Id like to talk about my plea if possible. In my online plea I plead not guilty to both the speeding charges and both the failure to provide driver info charges but offered to change my not guilty plea for the speeding if the failure to provide charges are not continued. Are you willing to accept that offer?'Fingers crossed it goes as expected...will update afterwards

The letter that I have received does say on it summons to court, and says 'you are summonsed to attend the court sitting'Does that mean that something different is going to happen?To answer your other question aswell...yes I did respond online to the sjpn saying not guilty to both but saying I will change the not guilty if the failure to provide info charge is dropped

Hi again All, I have now heard back with a summons to court. Just wondered what the best way to go about this is? From what I gather I should turn up early, be polite and ask for the clerk of the court and/or the prosecuter?is it as straight forward/formal as just say 'hello, In my plea I mentioned that I would be willing to switch my not guilty plea for the speeding offences if the failure to provide driver info charges are dropped' and let them respond or is it more of a conversation kind of thing?Guess Im just trying to understand what the dynamic should be? And if for some reason Im not able to get hold of them beforehand what happens?

Its more that Im worried that by pleading not guilty they might view it as wasting their time and then just go all out with all the full punishment. And also considering that they found me with the SJP notice I guess they must have worked out that the V5C was wrong? Ive spoken to a few solicitors for initial advice already with mixed feedback: -first one said theyd have to go to court, and that theyd start by trying the plea deal option, but want crazy money for it  -second one said theres no defence and I should just plead guilty -third one said that apparently they would say its 6 points as long as the failure to provide info charge relates to the same speeding instance so thatd still make it 12 points between the 2 instances. I also Asked this one about making the plea and they said itd definitely go to court, and that deal only really applies if the address was correct but you didnt recieve it?If my best option is still to try this then I will, Im just trying to understand if the incorrect address on the V5C basically means the plea has no chance of working

Presumably the "letter" is a Single Justice Procedure Notice?1. No. 2. Very unlikely3. - No. No intent is required.- Do you really want to portray yourself as a serial offender?- No4. Some justices will accept the "deal" online. If not, you have to go to court and speak to the prosecutor. No need for a lawyer.[/quote]Yes sorry poor terminology, the SJP notice. So you still think theres a good chance that they would accept? I guess Im worried that by pleading not guilty and then going to court they would view that negatively when they ask me what my reason for pleading not guilty is, because Id have to say its because of the V5C which had the incorrect address which then makes it open and closed. Where if I plead guilty I could at least say what happened and let them know that Id also lose 10% of my salary if I was to lose my license. If you go to court and speak to the prosecuter about the deal what reason would there be for them to accept it?But honestly I really arent too familiar with how all this works and am really worriedI really appreciate the feedback

Quote from: Southpaw82 on 29 Oct, 2024 12:261, 2 & 3 - no. 4 - it’s going to court because there is no other disposal method open to the police, except doing nothing. Not sure why you want to spend money on a solicitor.Do you mean that youd expect this will go to court if I plead anything other than guilty? I guess my thought is just that I want to somehow avoid losing my license and Im really not familiar with how all this works where a solicitor might be?Im kind of panicking, I dont know if its really black and white so if I plead guilty then I get all the points & fine (the notice does say its a reduced fine for pleading guilty), and if I plead not guilty and it goes to court I still get all the points & the full fine - or would going to court allow me to plead a case and maybe hope for some leniancy?

I have read through the other threads on this subject but wanted to outline my specific circumstances as they vary a littleI recieved a litter through last week detailing 2 cases of speeding from back & 2 cases of failing to provide info on the driver. The original charges stem from May, and I subsequently never recieved the NIPs Relating to the speeading itself, 1 was 28 in a 20 and 1 was 30 in a 20, both from a temporary camera that had been set up on quite a steep hill on the next street along from my house (I did not know it was there). I only mention this part as I drive on this road multiple time a day every day majority and do try to stick under the limit but it can be quite easy to accidentally go over 20. Regardless though, not disputing the speeding itselfThen, after checking, I realise that I never recieved the NIPs as I hadnt remembered to update my V5C when I moved into a new house. I updated insurance and driving license but must have forgotten the V5C (even more frustrating as I had only updated it about a year prior when I moved into a rental). I read on the other threads about entering not guilty to both but with the offer of changing to guilty for speeding if the other is dropped but I just have a few questions:1 - Is the fact there are 2 charges more likely to mean they dont accept this plea and I should just plead guilty to both?2 - Would the fact that there are 2 charges of each which would total 18 points (and me losing my license) mean they would look at this a little more leniantly at all?3 - Is it worth mentioning any of the detail I gave above as some form of mitigation?          -the fact that I did update it a year prior so it was clearly just a mistake with no malice intended         -I have always responded within the time frame any time anything like this has happened before         -the fact that they are both on the same road within 1 month of each other4 - is my case one that should really go to court rather than through the online plea and or include a solicitor?Or any other thoughts? I just feel like this is such a huge potential impact on me for what was an admin error (albeit one I know I should have updated)Thanks in advance