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Nice to see a previously won appeal with similar circumstances. I'll draft a version tomorrow and share but in the meantime just sharing what my lease says about PCN (that's all I could find on both my online and paper agreement):



The website also had an FAQ stating:

As [Leasing company] are the registered keeper of the vehicle, Penalty Charge Notices (PCN's) will be addressed to us and come to us in the first instance. As legislation requires immediate payment, we will usually pay this on your behalf and then pass this charge on to you by sending an invoice and supporting documents. Please note you will still be able to appeal the PCN.

The terms suggest the correct contravention is not having a valid ticket.

Can you actually pay a charge here or is it limited to 3 hours free.

No you can't pay a charge. You can only use Ringgo (or apparently call) to get 3 free hours, starting from the time you "buy".

It seems obvious from the car park conditions board, namely three hours free, maximum stay three hours. SO the only reason to "buy" a ticket, is to check people only stay for 3 hours or less. Of course it is not totally free because in order to "buy" a ticket, one has to use Ringo and pay their 20p fee.

There's actually no fee when using Ringgo in this car park!

This is an example of the app summary of a session:

Oh, I see - that would mean that even if I got the ticket after the PCN, it would be valid for the time of the PCN (depending on the T&C's I guess).

I'll be back there tomorrow, I'll take a picture and report back! Thank you.

Hello,


My wife recently visited the Lloyd Park Car Park in Croydon and totally forgot to use Ringgo to 'pay' for the 3 hours free parking. When she came back to the car, she had a Penalty Charge Notice issued with code 73 'parked without payment of the parking charge'. As she was staying longer for food at the café, she got worried she could get a second one so immediately registered the parking on Ringgo (at 12:33), PCN was issued at 11:46.


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Back:



Obviously we did not pay the free parking charge on time, but what I was wondering is whether there's any grounds to appeal due to the observation time being only a single minute? I searched online a bit and it does seem that in most cases it should be at least 2 minutes if I'm understanding correctly, but I am not 100% sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Thanks.

They have 28 days to issue a PCN from contravention date, so this looks way over, but is the car leased ? If so, the first PCN goes to the lease company, who can pass on details of the lessee, and get the PCN cancelled. The council then have another 28 days to issue a second PCN.

Thanks! Confirming the car is leased. It's a company car (the company is a Ltd company owned by my relative), so the PCN was sent to 'xxx LTD' if that matters.

Agreed re. the signs and the offence, I think except if they can use the 28 days technicality, they are out of luck. In this case, would you recommend they write to the council to check whether they first reached out to the leasing company?

Thanks!