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Sorry about all the "third degree, hard cop, soft cop" stuff, but its very important to get answers and a full view of the situation if useful advice is to be given.

The bottom line for me is that the debt is still outstanding. Nothing I have read so far tells me anything that will result in the debt being extinguished. OK, the bailiffs may go back to the council and tell them "we can't enforce the debt, sorry", and the council then write it off, but they're not going to tell you they have done this. So you might come back to the UK in the future  and suddenly get different bailiffs at your door when you thought it had all gone away.

Just seems extremely unfair due to no fault of my own, I am now dealing with Bailiffs and a significant amount of money. If I was given the opportunity to pay the original fine, should I have known about it, would have been sorted in no time. Seems like the whole system is set up to get people into debt with Bailiffs.

@maripop00

You've been grilled like a Sunday roast, with every question picking over answers you've already served up. So, let's skip the fluff and get straight to the juicy bits to spare you any further hassle.

Thank you for your advice and taking your time to respond. Really appreciate this

Have you ever used your mother's address as the Registered Keeper address of the car with the DVLA. IE has your mother's address ever been on the car's V5c registration doc?

It is the same address where I live, or lived before I went abroad back in end of  April

You still haven't answered the question - is the address on the CDER letter identical to the address on the V5C for the car, and is the V5C address the same now as it was when the PCN was issued by TfL ?

Yes, sorry thought I answered it above. The address is the same. It hasn't changed since getting the car to this day

Quote from: maripop00 on October 20, 2024, 10:02:55 pm

Quote from: stamfordman on October 20, 2024, 08:05:12 pm

What address is on the V5C logbook. That's where at least three letters will have been sent to.

I haven't changed address, it's the same as the first CDER letter

So, to confirm....
The address on your V5C is the same as the address on the CDER letter, and that V5C address has been the same as before the date of the ULEZ PCN ?

You have not received THREE statutory documents, all sent to the address on the V5C shortly after the alleged contravention was detected by TfL cameras
- Original PCN
- Charge Certificate
- Order for Recovery

No letters have been received    The first was the CDER letter

Hi everyone
After some advice.
I drove to London back in April 2024, and was extremely careful not going into the Congestion Charge Zone, which I believed was the only thing you had to pay for.
I live in Cheshire, and this was my first time going into London in like 12 years so had no idea about the Ulez. Maybe ignorance, I know, but I am not local from London, and do not keep up with the news regarding these charges.
Cutting long story short, I received a letter from CDER Group , however I didn't receive any letter from TfL at all (we did have troubles with Royal Mail, maybe letters getting lost) but point is the first time I heard about this fine was from CDER with obviously a very high amount now.
I emailed CDER to say that I will be contacting TfL, as if I had received any letters previously, I would of paid straight away and not letting this amount to a high now.
CDER replied that they cannot stop any enforcement unless their client (TfL) tells them and proceeded to visit my address the next day after their response. Obviously no one answered the door.
I am currently abroad and will be for the next 9-12 months (and even the car I drove is currently as : exported' due to being more than 1 year I will be abroad - still same car and reg as the fine) but my mother is at the address (who is vulnerable and disabled lives alone) and I obviously want to avoid CDER bothering her!
What would you advise is the best course of action for me ? Can I get in touch with TfL , is there a way to reinstate the original fine amount on the basis that I didn't receive any letter previously and stupidly wasn't even aware of Ulez as not local - I am now and clearly will not be repeating the same mistake in the future 
Also, how do I stop CDER from visiting again or can they put the case on hold while I sort with TfL ?
Are CDER actually Bailiffs? What would happen should they decide to visit again ?
I just want to get this sorted asap, I would rather pay the original fine - but completely unsure on how to word it

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